Wrong Assumptions: Maurice Tiberius Decanummium from Constantine in Numidia

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  1. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Got an unidentified lot of four ancients from eBay yesterday, which I bid on because of the decanummium that didn't look too bad. I couldn't ID from the seller's photos - I figured it was a common Justinian. What was clear to me from the photo was that it came from Constantinople - a CON mintmark was very clear to see.

    That was the wrong assumption. When I got it in hand and started researching it, I found that it had been minted in Constantine, Numidia. The Maurice Tiberius decanummii (sp.?) from Constantinople have the Officina letter to the right of the I - the ones from Constantine in Numidia have a star on either side of the I.

    I'd never heard of that mint. I think this is also called Cirta -

    "In 412, Cirta was host to another important Christian council, overseen by St Augustine. According to Mommsen, Cirta was fully Latin-speaking and Christian by the time the Vandals arrived in AD 430.[18] Under the emperor Justinian I, the city walls were reinforced and the city was named capital of its region with a resident commander (dux). Cirta was part of the Byzantine Africa from 534 to 697."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirta

    The coin is nicely struck, with a pretty green patina that is unfortunately a bit thick, making it hard to read the obverse inscription:

    Maurice Tib Decanum Const Numidia Jul 2019 (0).jpg

    Here's the obverse legend:
    Maurice Tib Decanum Const Numidia Jul 2019 (0 obv det).jpg

    And it's chunky!

    Maurice Tib Decanum Const Numidia Jul 2019 (0 det).jpg

    Maurice Tiberius
    Decanummium
    (582-602 A.D.)
    Constantine in Numidia Mint

    DN MAVRI Tb PP AVG, crowned and cuirassed bust facing / Large I, star to left, pellet-cross-pellet above, star to right; mintmark CON in exergue.
    SB 578; DOC 262.
    (4.28 grams / 18 mm)

    Any other Constantine, Numidia Byzantines out there? I couldn't find any others on Coin Talk, but searching "Constantine" is not very helpful, as you can imagine. Any information about the mint would be helpful too - a cursory online search didn't turn up much.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2019
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Very nice bronze, Mike.
     
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  4. catadc

    catadc Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. I got my Sear yesterday, so "Constantine (in Numidia): CON. Operational sporadically from year 14 of Justinian (540/41) to year 11 of Maurice Tiberius (592/3)."
     
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  5. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Thank you for that information, catadc. I updated my attribution accordingly.
     
  6. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    I learn new things here everyday, that's a nice interesting coin thanks for sharing!
     
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  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Very cool coin! But I think your first instinct was right, it is indeed Constantinople. SB 498A has stars. The "Constantine" mint (SB 578) has pellets above the stars.

    Here's my SB 536 from Antioch:
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  8. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I am pretty sure mine has the dots (or pellets or whatever they are called). Again, the patina makes them hard to see (and photograph - they are clearer in hand):

    Maurice Tib Decanum Const Numidia Jul 2019 (0 rev det).jpg
     
  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    If the pellets are clear in hand, great! Cool coin, now I want one. :D
     
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  10. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm note sure "clear" is quite what they are - the pellet on the left is fairly visible. The one on the right is somewhat obscured by a patina booger (not a technical term :angelic:).

    The Constantinople 498A is still a possibility - I had not noticed the 2 stars, no officiana type from Constantinople - and I thank you for pointing it out.

    It does seem the Constantinople decanummiums are fairly crude compared to the Numidia ones I looked at (and mine). The Numidia examples I saw were on nice round flans with respectable edges. In comparison, the Constantinople ones look horrible (498 with the officinal is pretty common, I think) - but I could only find one 498A - on Coin Archives:

    Maurice Tiberius - Decanummium Constantinople SB 498A - auct pic.jpg


    https://www.coinarchives.com/a/lotv...&Lot=335&Val=e9b398bde29f444ff67de76eb5fef50e
     
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