Do you collect small (<15mm) coins?

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  1. stam1

    stam1 Member

    I have quite a few very small coins, some of them are about 1cm only. I got most of them while buying a batch of coins that included some coins that I wanted.

    Here are a few examples. As always, any help with ID is appreciated!

    I believe the 2nd one is an URBS ROMA (which I have a few but this one is the smallest I've got).
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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    The middle one does look to be a VRBS ROMA. The other two look to be barbarous copies.
     
  4. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Yes, the first and third are so-called barbarous imitations of third century antoniniani, probably Tetricus I. These may have been issued in Gaul or Britain. Do you know where they were found?
     
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  5. stam1

    stam1 Member

    Unfortunately I don't know where they were found.
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Those barbarous imitations you showed are very interesting. One of these days I want to dip my toes into that pool.

    Sure! Massive, miniscule, or medium, it's all good :D.

    Here are some of my smallest, edited to approximate scale with a US dime for reference.

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    Left to right, row by row, from the top:

    CALABRIA, Tarentum. AR litra, 11 mm
    CARIA, Mylasa. AR hemiobol, 7 x 9 mm
    ARKADIA, Psophis. AR obol, 10 mm
    MACEDON, Pangeion region. AR 5 mm, 0.26 gm
    ARKADIA, Arkadian League, Megalopolis. AR obol, 11 mm
    MYSIA, Pitane. AE 9 mm
    IONIA, Klazomenai. AR diobol, 9 mm
    IONIA, Klazomenai. AR diobol, 10 mm
    PHLIASIA, Phlius. AR obol, 11 mm
    SICILY, Selinos. AR litra, 11 mm
    CARIA, Kindya. AR tetrobol, 11 mm (but quite thick, 2.18 gm)

    5 mm Macedonian monkey atop a 48 mm Ptolemy II bronze:

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  7. stam1

    stam1 Member

    Beautiful collection @TIF ! I'm curious about the weight of the Ptolemy coin? I know some can reach 100gr.
     
  8. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    My profile pic displays my smallest denomination - AR sestertius of the Roman Republic, ca. 1 gram - "in the hand" of an AE Aes Grave Quadrans, ca. 65 grams.
     
  9. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    Yeah, small coins are lots of fun! Here are some Greek AR fractions on a 42mm Ptolemaic drachm. It's an old pic; not trying to copy the inimitable TIF. Got some even tinier ones now so an update is in order! 102_0126.JPG
     
  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I do have some small coins. I do not specifically seek them out. Here are a few from my collection:

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    Aiolis, Gryneion
    AE11, 1.3g, 12h; 3rd Century BC.
    Obv.: Laureate head of Apollo, 3/4 facing left.
    Rev.: ΓYP-NH; Mussel shell.

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    Pisidia, Selge.
    Æ12, 2.4g, 7h; 2nd-1st centuries BC
    Obv.: Laureate and bearded head of Herakles facing, lion-skin around neck; club to left.
    Rev.: Forepart of stag right, head left.
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have several Tetartemorions that are approx / around 5mm in size and around 0.1g. Fun to collect. Mine are all BCE. I really do not collect “moderns” (my definition is any coins minted in CE / AD). :)

    My Biggie and Smallie that I have posted before...

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    Carthage AE 15-Shekel 45mm dia & 7.5mm thick @ a hefty 102.6g vs Ionia AR Tetartemorion 4mm @ 0.13g
    diameter: 11 to 1
    Weight: 789 to 1

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    AMAZING to me that the THICKNESS of this coin is almost TWICE the diameter of the Tetartemorion!!!
     
  12. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I have smaller coins than this one, but it's the only one I've ever photographed sitting on a modern coin.

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  13. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    10x diameter difference: Tetartemorion from Lampsakos, c. 400 BC (6mm); and Xian Feng (1851-1861), 100 cash, Suzhou mint (60 mm):

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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Some do. Mine is 91.8 gm.
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    That is such a cool pic, @Severus Alexander ! How much does the 100 Cash weigh?
     
  16. Nathan P

    Nathan P Well-Known Member

    I usually don't go below 18 mm, as I can't make out much detail if it's smaller than a dime.
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I dunno, @Nathan P ... I have no problem using a magnifying glass. The details can be astonishing. And, the die-cutters were amazing craftsmen. What is a dime? :)

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    CILICIA Uncertn Early-mid 4th C BCE AR Tetartemorion 5mm 0.17g Persian king running dagger and bow - Crowned hd Achaemenid king CNG E239 Troxell Kagan 4
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    AEOLIS, KYME.jpg AEOLIS KYME aa.jpg
    AEOLIS, KYME
    AR Hemiobol
    OBVERSE: Eagle's head left, KY to left (M beneath the head, nearly off flan)
    REVERSE: Quadrapartite incuse square of mill-sail pattern
    Struck at Aeolis, 450BC
    .46g, 7mm
    SNG Cop 32
     
  19. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Thanks, Brian! It's not super thick, so only about 60g. Here's both sides, a little brighter:
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    Suzhou mint, Jiangsu province, H22.917

    My notes on the history (since you're a history guy! :D):
    This coin was issued during the Taiping rebellion, and a few years later (in 1860) the rebels would take Suzhou and reduce it to a husk of its former self. The Taiping rebellion was led by religious fanatic Hong Xiuquan, who thought he was the brother of Jesus Christ, and wished to convert China to his syncretic version of Christianity which included elements of Chinese folk religion. It was the bloodiest civil war in history, with death toll estimates ranging between 20 and 100 million, mostly due to plague and famine. Suzhou was retaken for the Qing in 1863.
     
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  20. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    I wouldn't say I "collect" them, but I do add the odd small coin to my collection.

    Here is my El Hekte (9mm):

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    Lesbos (Mytilene) El Hekte
    377-326 BC
    Obv: head of Apollo right
    Rev: Lyre
    2.56g
     
  21. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    AE 4 of Marcian. It's 10.4 mm in diameter.

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