I found old coin

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I found old coin

  1. It's original or fake

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  1. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    Dear
    how u can tell its modern can u explain to me plz have 0% experience
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    My first (naive) thought Was (when I first saw it) that it was a Medallion......
     
  4. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    One of my friend think same
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Welcome to the forum. You've got a good group of guys and gals here who possess a great deal of knowledge, expertise and experience (disregarding me) regarding 'ancients' and the like.
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    See, lots of help. One suggestion, "dear" is usually only used beginning a letter (Dear President Clinton...) or for close friends.
     
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  7. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    Thanks for helping :)
     
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  8. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    I couldn't find a match for the coin in acsearch. The closest I came was a contemporary 2 solidi medallion, but that weighed 8.8g.

    What makes you say it's fake?
     
  9. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    It looks, based on thumb and nail size , to be about 23 or 24mm wide. I'm not an expert but the wear pattern looks odd (worn mouth/lips but intact hair) and the flatness of the fields looks weird to me (maybe I'm just not used to seeing them this worn)... I'd fall on the side of "party pooper" too.
     
  10. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    What on the mouth its scratch
     

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  11. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    Two things I want to say:

    1. Lebanon, together with Israel, are known of making a lot of counterfeits.

    2. If you paid something like a bullion-gold-price then I would not worry. But I would never buy numismatic coins in places like Lebanon/Israel.

    I have no opinion whether it is genuine or not.
     
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  12. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    This what makes me crazy I don't find any think like this coin
    I ask my self
    if it's fake from where they get the original one than copy it I don't find any where on net or book smaller
     
  13. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    But it wasn't bought, it was found.

    Who makes a modern 22K fake solidus, and then throws it away?
     
  14. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

    No no I don't found on under land I fond it with many coin like bronze coin and defiant stuff from old friend of my father he give it all to me
    Sorry my English not perfect
     
  15. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    I thought he wrote that he found it in a shop in Lebanon.

    Anyway, I remember there was a thread where a debater asserted that he found a coin in earth, but the other debaters here questioned it.

    If he really found it in earth then it is genuine, and only he knows it.
     
  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Your English is fine
     
  17. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Ok, my mistake! I misunderstood.
     
  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Finding a coin in or on the ground does not guarantee authenticity. Fakes are sometimes salted in coin-rich areas. Perhaps forgers hope a new type will be presumed authentic due to the manner in which it was found, and the more can be produced and sold because an "authentic" example is known.

    Although in the OP case, as he clarified he did not find it on/in the ground.
     
  19. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    YES! - "salted" that was the word I was looking for!
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    To be clear, although I very strongly suspect it is a modern creation, I am not an expert (especially for that late Roman period) nor do I have the coin in hand for examination, so please don't take my opinion as unquestionable truth.

    There are no known solidi of Valens with that reverse.
     
  21. Moda888

    Moda888 Active Member

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    This some of what I got inside the box of my father friend but really I have 0% experience with it
     
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