Can anyone identify this error and give an idea as to its value?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by John Herman Buckendahl, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. 1562063890493794426306.jpg 1562063890493794426306.jpg 15620640477261560816666.jpg 15620640477261560816666.jpg 1562064266973311347262.jpg 15620643448111656098561.jpg I came across this 2005 Minnesota State quarter that had obvious damage that had to have been done at the mint. Yet I am unable to find an example of an error coin resembling the one that I have here. So I am in need of some help with identifying this coin error. I took pictures of the front, back, and of the edges in efforts to show the actual extent of which this coin has been damaged, and will supply more pictures if needed. Although the pictures of the edges that I have submitted are not of a very good quality, I hope that one is still able to notice the lack of reeding on the edges in some places, and how the coin appears to be folded up on itself as well. I have been trying to identify the type of error this coin has for months now, and have decided to try this route in hopes of receiving some insight on what it is that I'm dealing with here. Thank you!
     
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  3. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    What makes you think the damage was done at the mint?
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    DEFDAM - Definitely Damaged

    Sorry but that is not a Mint Error. It was altered after it left the US Mint. :yack:

    Don't assume that if you see something different or strange on a coin that it's automatically a mint error. There are thousands upon thousands of damaged coins in circulation out there.
     
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  5. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    totally Post mint damage. PMD. scary damage worth maybe 23 cents now lol
     
  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    road kill (parking lot find).
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    try to spend it
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Welcome to the neighborhood @John Herman Buckendahl !

    Like others have said, it is not a Mint error, just someone taking their anger out on this poor coin with a hammer or something.

    Before you start looking for errors, it would be a good idea to learn how coins are made. There are a gazillion ways that coins like this can be damaged while in circulation, but the number of ways that errors are created at the Mint are very limited.

    Chris
     
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  9. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    Interesting in the world of 18th Century British counterfeit halfpence which made up nearly 50% of our Colonial coinage there are specimens that the counterfeiter did edge knocks all around (lightly) to simulate the coin had circulation wear prior to their release in circulation. They are unusual. In this case of course PMD. John Lorenzo. United States.
     
  10. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

    Looks somewhat like a coin that went through a garbage disposal.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No way that could have happened at the Mint. Whatever gave you that idea? If you saw something on UTube for it as it's full of misinformation. It is damaged and badly damaged at that. Trade it in for a 2 dimes and a nickel on your next visit to your local bank.

    Welcome to CT.
     
  12. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    "obvious damage that had to have been done at the mint"

    The only error is in automatically concluding that it had to have been done at the mint. Like the others said, it is damaged.

    But welcome to CT and keep on looking.
     
  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    garbage disposal or lawn mower met that quarter.
     
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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I was going to ask that ... what "obvious" indicators are there that it was done at the Mint ??
     
  15. My camera does not do this piece justice, so what is obvious to me is apparently not as popular as I had originally expected it to be on here. However, I have been an avid collector going on around 5 years or so now, and would like to think that I have developed a familiarity with the physical properties of the coins that I am interested in sufficiently enough to be able to properly identify post mint damage which had occured in such an extensive and dramatic fashion, regardless of the means. It would not be an issue that I would introduce to this forum had I not exhausted my resources towards identifying the cause of the damage on this quarter, and the suggestions of "garbage disposal" or "lawnmower" would definitely be of a class of post mint damage that I have already been able to eliminate as the possible means for which this has happened. Along the lines of one of the replies that I received to my post, that the only error is in automatically assuming that the damage was done at the mint, so would be automatically assuming that a person new to this forum is also new enough not to recognize obvious forms of post mint damage. Besides, the conclusion that I drew was not automatic, as I have spent months looking at this thing, but I did state that it was obvious. So, considering the overwhelming response to my original post, let me rephrase my question by asking "Can the damage seen in the pictures be the product of any of the processes performed in the mint that the quarter was subjected to? Is it possible for the mint, and the mint only, to produce a coin with errors that are consistent with the ones shown in these pictures?"
     
  16. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

  17. Oh, and to expound on my statement to the obvious damage that I attribute to the minting of this coin, are the missing reeding that I tried to show by taking pictures of the coins edge, and the misshaped devices of the field that cannot be achieved post mint. There is also a sizeable cud that corresponds with damage to the opposite side of the coin in exactly the same size and consistent with the damage already effecting other areas of the coin... Essentially, it would be impossible to subject that coin to any processes that would be able to take reeding out of the edge, or to explain the partially altered devices found in the field...
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @John Herman Buckendahl It does not matter how this coin was damaged. You admit that it was damaged but it was only damaged after it left the Mint. A damaged coin is a damaged coin. Was it hit with a hammer, the reeding filed off or ground down? Was acid used on the coin? A whole punch, pliers or any other hand tool? As suggested a garbage disposal or a lawnmower? It really doesn't matter does it? No one I know would want that coin in their pocket or purse let alone their collection. Why is that? Because it's badly damaged.
     
  19. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Also, do not limit yourself to one, singular explanation of the damage.

    After it left the mint how many hands has the quarter been through?
    How many times has it dropped to the ground?
    how many cashier's tills has it been in?
    How many pockets, how many times has someone thrown it into a wishing well ?

    These are the answers that are simply not attainable nor explainable.
    The most important thing is to identify it as Post Mint Damage rather than damage during the Minting phase.

    After coins are minted they fall down a metal chute into an inspection tray.
    After that they fall down a chute to the ballistic bags. When full the ballistic bags are closed, and since on a pallet are then distribute to coin vendors when requested.

    If you have been staring at this for months, have you taken it to a local coin shop, or coin show, facebook groups or other coin forums or another place where there may be an expert that can see it in hand? And if so, what was their conclusion?
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2019
  20. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    To determine the exact value of this coin is simple. Put it on ebay with a thirty cent start and after a week you will know exactly what it is worth. 160 million viewers will cure any lingering doubts that you have. I hope that you draw and collect on a million dollar bid.
     
  21. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    have you ever seen a spooned coin, or a dryer coin?
    those processes can obliterate the reeding.
     
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