Why isn't this a MS 65?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LuxUnit, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    It's definitely different. I call it my blood Morgan because it looks like blood splattered on the left and pooled on the right. I can see how some people might find that unappealing! Lol
     
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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Ugly??? Perhaps not your taste, but ugly? No way. The coin has eye appeal for sure.
     
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  4. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    Decent toning....but never a 65.
     
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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Doug is probably pretty close if not right on. The date and mint can make a big difference. I have seen a lot of other date/mint combinations that looked a lot worse make the 65 grade, but for an early S mint? They tend to come too nice so in order to make the grade they have to be really clean.
     
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  6. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Absolutely. 1881s and 1882s coins are held to a higher standard, given the high mintages, high survival rates, strong strikes, and abundance of beautiful examples for those dates. Those coins have to “work harder” to get a gem grade, than other common dates.
     
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  7. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    I understand it has eye appeal for you. It just doesn't do it for me, and as I noted, IMHO.
     
  8. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    63 with ugly toning, imo. Probably no one on here will agree with me, which is why I put imo.
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    65 its not
     
  10. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Not a chance. To many dings. And the toning doesn't hide any of them
     
  11. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    Count me as one who loves that crimson toning. Did you send this one in yourself? eBay purchase?
     
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  12. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    eBay purchase. There's a seller I've talked to a few times who is a really nice guy. He had this coin up and there were really bad photos. When I looked it up there were true views and and I was instantly all in lol The seller submitted it from an old ICG holder which was marked 66+. (I know, I know it's not a Gem and ICG is bad). I got lucky I snagged it before anyone else did because you rarely see this crimson red on a Morgan!
     
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  13. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I found the listing on eBay. I can’t imagine why he didn’t use the TrueView image. He may have left money on the table. I too would have bought it at his asking price. Crimson is rare on any coin. You’ve got something special here. It’s really a unique look because there are no other colors present- just crimson and silver. I really dig the contrast. My favorite color on a Morgan is a deep, iridescent emerald green.
     
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  14. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    Oh for sure, this is one of two coins I got recently that I wouldn't let go for even 3x what I paid! Love them ha if you ever get an emerald green one you should post it here for sure.
     
  15. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    I have an 1887 with lovely green peripheral toning. You can see blue as well in the TrueView image, but in-hand it looks purely green.

    1887 Morgan PCGS MS63 TrueView.jpg

    Then, there's the green color as seen in The Moose Morgan.....

    the moose 1.jpg

    Or even the Green Meanie Morgan.....

    green meanie.jpg
     
  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I like the red Morgan. But it’s a nice 63. The toning hides the baggy Cheek
     
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  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    4D77FF67-952D-45E0-BE94-F19627AF8D43.jpeg Like this one. Probably shouldn’t have sold it
     
  18. Ike Skywalker

    Ike Skywalker Well-Known Member

    WOW. How long did you own it, @Mainebill? That’s a dream Morgan for me.
     
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