1923 S Lincoln Cent Error?

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  1. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    What type of error would you call this?
     

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Not a Mint Error.. Damage IMHO
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I want to check on this one. I am away from my references. That looks like a strike through to me. I am having trouble seeing damage without it affecting UNUM.
    @paddyman98
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Inside the craterlike feature you can also see the letters UNU from the word UNUM twice. Overlapping each other. I don't know of anything during the minting process that would cause that effect.

    @Fred Weinberg
     
  6. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Callin the big guns ha?

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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I here ya, there area in question looks like three strikes to me.
    @mikediamond
     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Paddy could compacted grease and debris become compacted with this look? I am imagining that the compacted strike thru became unattached three times before it flipped over and struck the planchet.
    Is that possible?
     
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  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Human Damage. Jim
     
  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I was thinking some kind of Grease Mold Doubling?
    http://www.error-ref.com/grease-mold-doubling/

    But probably not. @desertgem just called it PMD also
     
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  11. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    Also the letters are backwards. So some how clamped down on by another penny, but just the Unum part?
     
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  14. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Just saw this thread -

    I think Pickn&Grinin got it -

    It appears to be a piece of compressed
    metal (a flake or two off another planchet
    that fell off the die at this point, and dropped
    onto this planchet just before it was struck.

    Notice that it's incused, which means something
    positive, or raised, caused it. A piece of metal,
    whether compressed metal/grease, or just a
    piece of detached lamination, was in that area of
    the die.

    A 'dropped letter' type of error, imo.

    What is unusual about it is that the piece that
    came out off the die dropped in that exact spot,
    just under the lettering that matched the compressed
    piece of metal....usually they drop randomly, and not
    right in the same spot as the original part of the die
    that had the compressed metal.

    I'd also like to see what Mike D. says about it.
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Odd that no one has mentioned that the extra letters such as in the last photo show a straighter line alone the top, whereas on the cent they more curved. The letter "E" in the same photo show no sign of mechanical doubling in any direction so I think that has to be eliminated . The letters also do not exactly come close to being the same shape as the original. The thing that bothers me is how would a dropped letter grouping not damage the tip of the E? Jim
     
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  16. Islander80-83

    Islander80-83 Well-Known Member

    Okay, times up!

    Pickin and Grinin, Fred-

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