1895 O Morgan for comments

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Inspector43, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Silver Is an Excellent conductor of electricity - maybe heat as well...I will add it to my "find an answer" list :)
     
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  3. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    When you find a good answer please post it.
     
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  4. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Silver has good thermal conductivity and so does copper.

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  5. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Well @Inspector43 - if there is an accepted "Ice test" - I suspect we have the answer :)
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yeah, and the problem is this: you're not just conducting heat from the air to the ice, you're cooling down your piece of metal. In fact, I expect any melting you measure comes from cooling the metal down to the temperature of the ice. (Try it with silver and copper coins that are already cooled down to 0, and see if you can measure a difference!)

    Silver has slightly better thermal conductivity (~5%) than copper, but copper has higher specific heat, which means it'll absorb more energy while you're cooling it down. I'd need to run controlled experiments, but I wonder if copper wouldn't actually melt the ice more quickly than silver.

    (Edited to fix direction of heat transfer :oops:, thanks @Tlberg...)
     
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  8. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Just gotta <3 Science. @-jeffB ! in Any application :)
     
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  9. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    (Conducting Heat From Ice?)
     
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  10. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    So the next coin show buy a generic silver and copper round.
    Sand off the surface with a belt sander to make both equally flat (and this will have some tooth to it).
    Place in the freezer... wait

    Weigh several ice cubes to find pairs of equal weight

    Place an ice cube on both and measure melt times.
    Repeat multiple trials...

    Present mean, median and standard deviation...

    Inquiring minds want to know!
     
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  11. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    I have a hs understanding of statistics - but you lost me right after "Sand" a silver round..I'm sure the gov paid for that info already :)
     
  12. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    (I've just never heard of an Ice Test for silver - sorry)
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Oh for pity's sake. Fill out the correct federal government forms to apply for a federal grant. You get paid to conduct all the metal and ice tests your heart desires and with grants you don't have to pay back the funds. Just publish the test results in 5 years. :)
     
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  14. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

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    I now have a Retirement plan...
     
  15. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Aaand we're off topic.....back to the Morgan - I suspect coating of some kind...
     
  16. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    (wouldn't the results be more accurate if both were polished? Inquiring minds... Sorry - back to the coated Morgan)
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Erm, where did I say that (after editing)? :angelic:
     
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  18. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    LoL - my mistake - I'll fix it...drat time ran out :angelic:
     
  19. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Idk how to like the same [edited] post twice.. lol
     
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  20. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    back to the OPs Morgan - mho - still looks like it could have been coated....
     
  21. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    When you say 'coated' do you mean fake? How can we tell if it is coated? You can see the surface lines that show harsh cleaning. But, wouldn't the detail be distorted if it had some kind of coating on it?
     
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