Lets see your Cherry Picked coin

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Hoky77, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yeah, it was one of those transitional patterns. I can't find the old thread now. Had to have been a decade or more ago. It was raw and I think it was circulated. Easy enough to miss, I suppose. Then one day someone noticed.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    In the early 2000s I found a 1694 London Elephant token (thick planchet variety) in a small lot of World coins I bought for $3.00. It had VG details and a deep gouge in it, but it was the real deal.

    Found a Connecticut copper in another small lot. And a pretty nice Saint Patrick farthing (with the brass insert nice and bright) in another. So that's three times I've found stuff from the Colonial section of the Red book in bulk World coin lots.

    Also found a neat Civil War token of a somewhat lesser-seen variety in a 20-pound bag (of what was otherwise all very modern World coins) from a Bundesbank lot.

    Quite often the lesser known stuff that's not regular US Mint issue but is listed in the Redbook finds its way into mixed World coin lots.

    I remember speaking to a fella at my old antique mall booth, and telling him some of these stories. He later told me that inspired him to go through some bulk lots and he found a Martha Washington pattern dime. I didn't believe him when he told me that, but later read about the discovery in Coin World or a similar publication. Amazing.
     
  4. leeg

    leeg I Enjoy Toned Coins

    I think you would call this a cherry pick?

    Bought this coin in a PCGS holder. Looked PL to me. Crossed to NGC.

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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Got the PL and deserved it. Works for me.
     
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  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I couldn't pass on this one. It is my second 1796 NC-4 just purchased unattributed.

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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    1814 E/A

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    Reverse clashed with 25c die.

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  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    "This is one of the "common" NC varieties. When Dr. Sheldon first wrote about the big coppers just after World War II, he devised the term Non-Collectible for those coins with three or less known. As more of a given variety were attributed, the NC changed to Now Collectible. Thus, they remained labeled NC, but the meaning changed. A few of Sheldon's NCs have become quite populous, such as this one with more than 30 examples known. Only seven were known to Dr. Sheldon in 1958. Although large cent collecting had been an active pastime for 100 years since Ed Cogan held his sealed bid cent auction in 1858, Penny Whimsy and its predecessor Early American Cents were published before the renaissance of cent collecting occurred with the formation of the Early American Coppers Club in 1967. From that time forward, the early copper specialty gained substantially in popularity, and many new discoveries were made. "

    From a description of a 1796 NC-4 on Heritage Auctions.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Aha! Thank you for that explanation.

    So NC is nice to have, regardless of the change in meaning.

    (It also happens to be one of my favorite places.) ;)
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    So here's me, just this week. Swapped a coin to a forum member.

    He always adds extra freebies when he sends me stuff.

    So I need to add at least one extra something in his package, right?

    Hmm... so let's paw through my box of unpicked World coins and find him something.

    (Random grab)

    Oh, here, look. A 1924 reichspfennig from Weimar Germany.

    Pretty common type, but old enough to be interesting and make a fun freebie.

    Cool. Into the package it goes, and off in the mail.

    Hmm... think maybe I should've gotten my loupe out and checked the mintmark?

    Looked it up, perhaps?

    Naahhh... who's got time for that, right?

    It's a common type, after all...

    Oops. ;)


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    LOL

    Edit- here is @Paddy54's side of the story.

    I do stuff like this all the time. I'm often an accomplice to someone cherrypicking me. But in this case and many others, it didn't really cost me anything, since the coin was literally a random pick from a bulk bag. So it's all good. And other people are generous with me, so it all comes back around. Good for him! :)

    Edit 2: never mind. Much ado about nothing. The coin is a rentenpfennig, not a reichspfennig (similar designs and easily confused), so the apparent "accidental cherrypick" here was not what it first appeared to be.
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I will admit I am a bit confused....as I have found 2 listings for the 1924 E one said it is rare the other it is a common coin.
    Both listings the coin looks to be the same....in the image as well the description.The coin in hand is 2g by weight. The catalong list it twice as well numista if you click on the flag it will show you a different value.
    Can anyone field this one?
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    This sort of confusion happens to me fairly often, when Krause does not fully explain the difference between varieties.

    In the NGC/Krause database, however, I only see the KM37 type listed for a 1924-E reichspfennig. Perhaps @chrisild or @Seattlite86 will know more?

    Here is a link to your parallel thread about the cherrypick, with a picture of the coin, for those who are reading along.

    Who knew we'd end up showing a live cherrypick right here on this thread, as it happened! :p
     
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  14. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I now see the confusion. @Paddy54 you have a Rentenpfennig, KM30, not a Reichspfennig, KM37. I was lazy in looking up the actual coin when I read the original post.
     
  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    My catalog shows a KM# 30 as well a KM # 37
    Both describe the 30 and 37 as Weimar republic weight 2 g. Bronze,denomination within the circle rev. Wheat sheaf divides the date. How one tells the difference I cannot find a sorce to determine.
     
  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    How are the two differ?
     
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  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

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    NEVER MIND !
    Of course the late great Gilda Radner of SNL vintage 1970's
     
  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    SNL featured Emily Litella on the weekend update news.
    Many may recall how she always messed up the topic in her report.....her report on that little blue pill.... whatswrong-withan-election-that-lastsahours-never-mind-imgrip-com-the-12457718.png
     
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  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    thumb_whats-all-this-fuss-im-hearing-about-endangered-feces-db-34656472.png and of course her report on endangered species....

    The orginial cast of SNL is just another reason I am happy to have hit my present age ,to those of you who have never seen these late night shows and there take on the issues of that time frame you miss a lot!
    The talent was off the hook.... and the relief of daily issues made you laugh at all that would other wise drive you crazy.
     
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  20. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    KM30 at the bottom of the reverse says Rentenpfennig. KM37 at the bottom says Reichspfennig.
     
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  21. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I cannot agree more, paddy!:) - I was a foreign engineering student at the U. of Texas 75-80, always short of funds, poor and short of food, no car of course, no time (or money) for girls and LOTS of stress. The highlight of the weeks was watching 'Saturday Night Live', and specially Gilda...! she was hilarious ('You Know Jane, it is always Something.....').
    The 'land shark' stories where great! knock, knock (at the door): "who ist?.....land shark!!". You have to have seen it.

    So sad when I heard she had passed away so young.....

    Sorry and apologies for the digression, guys. I'll post a coin later in her memory.
     
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