Can anyone tell and point out to me why this coin is a fake.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Evildriven.da, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Show me what I'm missing. That makes this 1895 o Morgan dollar such a fake. I am a noob but don't want to keep making mistakes like this buying or trying to sell counterfeits. Thanks IMG_20190606_030752.jpg IMG_20190606_030517.jpg
     
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  3. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Hi - Who told you it is fake & what did they say exactly? The Excellent condition strikes me as unlikely - it looks like it was made yesterday - have you weighed it?
     
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  4. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    (should be real close to 26.73 grams according to bing search)
     
  5. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    The dark dirty spots on the coin seem a bit too perfect. Its like stained wood, as the stain pools adjacent to all the devices of the coin.
     
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  6. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Some on another coin forum. And they was quick to say fake but usually you get a reason why but they offered nothing ( to good to be true) so fake. And yes I did weigh it 26.7g and it isn't attracted to magnet. Ive looked and looked at comparisons online for fake to real coins. Looks good for me lol
     
  7. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Perfect coin with Perfect weight....I can't say definitely fake - but I'm leaning with the "too good to be true" thing. I bet there are other tests for silver content.
     
  8. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    It just has that slightly cartoonish look which makes me think "fake". Of course, there are many fakes that look even better that this one. A real, mint struck Morgan has a certain regal look about it that is not easy to reproduce. I am not an expert by any means, mostly fly by the seat of my pants. I usually go with my gut feeling.
     
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  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I don't like the apparent absence of luster in well-protected areas, the 5 in the date looks a little misshapen to me, and I think I see doubling of stars 1-4, for which I can find no documentation.
     
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  10. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Is this a Family Heirloom?
     
  11. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Can you show the reeded edge? Might see something there...
     
  12. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    My grandpa left it for me when he passed apparently grandma was holding ever since, know she not doing great. So it and a few other coins was given to me. And this 1895 Morgan stood out the most. Thanks for your input.
     
  13. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    Sorry to hear about your Grandma - if you have a chance to post the edge it would be cool to see it.
     
  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Patina seems wrong. Doesn't look like silver at all. Details are not crisp.
    Lack of luster as pointed out before. It does not have the look of a real Morgan at all. The 1895-O only has a mintage of 450,000, I doubt it's a real one.
     
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  15. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Taking pictures with my tablet so not best quality sorry IMG_20190606_093353.jpg IMG_20190606_093429.jpg IMG_20190606_093229.jpg
     
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  16. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Let me preface this observation with an absolute, undeniable, indisputable fact. I am not an expert. Ok, with that out of the way here's my observation.

    Morgan dollars seem to have a propensity for bag marks. Your Morgan has plenty of wear but it is lacking honest bag marks. This gives me cause for concern.
     
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  17. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    Reeding looks good.
     
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  18. Ag76

    Ag76 Coins 'n' history

    It does have a pewter-y look rather than a silver look. Does it pass the ping test?
     
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  19. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Also here's weight IMG_20190606_094210.jpg
     
  20. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    I found this- Screenshot_2019-06-06-10-45-33.png
     
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  21. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The following pic is a genuine example. Compare the digits on the date, especially 95 to yours. Also compare the Letters such as the E and R. Add to that the overall appearance and I would say Chinese fake. If you really want to be sure, go to VAM World. All known die marriages of the 1895-O are pictured. If you can't find an EXACT match, you have a counterfeit


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