Found this in a Roll

as you go back in time the Mint did more things in house.
but as they have evolved they've also been limited in their processes due to the footprint of their buildings. The buildings in Denver and Philadelphia have no room for expansion. So, for example, the Denver mint hasn't implemented some improvements that Philadelphia had due strictly to not having the space.

They've pushed some stuff to outside vendors but only before or after coin production. Such as you won't find smelting anymore inside the Mint, sheets/rolls are provided to the mint, or in the case with pennies the copper plated planchet itself in large bins.

This is, after all, a manufacturing and distribution operation.

 

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One can learn a lot here on CT. Even if you're considered an expert you can still learn. You just have to be open minded and willing.

 

So I'm ordering a ballistic bag. Can't wait to start sorting the 320,000 quarters!!! Gonna have get some beer!!! s

 

Of course the big question when roll hunting is the damage vs Errors. I've come to learn that regardless of the You-Tubers with videos finding "Cud" spots that these are not common. Damage is common. So here's a final questions on my quests for knowledge.

When grading a coin there is no difference between Mint damage vs circulation damage, correct? It's not easy to prove where the damage came from, even if you have the mint back it came in. (I just learned that the Mint doesn't even roll the Mint rolls - an outside vender does? - Which might account for the difference in roll wrappers).

 

Damage is damge.

 

you have to remember,
the US MINT makes all these coins for circulation.
They make other ones for Proofs, and sets.

You've probably seen Brinks/Loomis trucks picking up bags of coins and cash and carrying them to the trucks.

They simply throw those bags onto each other .. creating massive weight which can have the coins scratch/hit ding/damage each other.

They then process those bags using coin separation and counters.
you'll end up with a Dump like this ... which of course can cause scratches, dings, damage etc. .. which ends up back in rolls for store cash registers, banks, etc which gets used as money and ends up in the Brinks truck again in bags, which gets processed again .. over and over and over again.


just remember ... when you pull a coin out of circulation ... it's in "circulation" because it is being used for money first and foremost. They don't care that people are collecting them.

but, you have to learn what a "mint error" is versus "damage"

 

Thanks.

 

What am I missing? I try not to assume too much, but there isn't much of chance that there would be some rare, key date coins in such a ballistic bag, would there be?

 

before the ballistic bag there is a "holding bin" after ejection from the minting press .. I can't think of the specific name.

But they inspect the Holding Bin, if they find errors, damage, etc then they reject the Holding Bin and it gets scrapped. They may change die(s) because of it.

but they try to keep the "quality" at a certain level whilst they push the dies. The US MINT used to have a MQI - Mint Quality Index. I think it was replaced with a maximum production per die as I haven't seen the MQI referenced anytime recently in their documentation.

But .. if you get your hands on a ballistic bag full of coins .. at least it hasn't hit circulation yet. LOL

The trunk of your car might drag on the ground from it ...

 

apparently, some Facebook poster (the former ANA President) showed a pic of mint employees putting scoops of the W quarter inside the ballistic bags .... so ...

 

Too many who know aren't good teachers. Not good communicators either...

And it's best to believe NOTHING, even when no doubt remains ...

Yeah, because an idiot with no com skills is doing the slapping.

 

There is no problem with the teaching around here.
It's the fact that most want us to hold there hand and give them a pep talk while rubbing there shoulders. And the majority claim that they are grown adults.
Go figure?