1969S Double Die Penny..???

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1969S Double Die??

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  1. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    @Jj Oliva
    in your first post you stated "I THOUGHT FOR SURE N IM ALMOST CERTAIN ITS A DOUBLE DIE"
    what indicators are you comparing to know it's a Doubled Die?
    Can you provide links of what you are comparing ?

    also, please don't reference youtube, most of those videos are just plain wrong.
     
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  3. Jj Oliva

    Jj Oliva Member

    Google, coppercoins, i mean i know it's a proof coin but it has all die marks like other ones, by his eye on the T in Liberty... I thought I would send this one in because i knew it would be a high grade.. I HAVE 5 MORE OF THEM not in proof grade of course .lol
    Oh yea it has the doubling on botton of first 9 and on top of the 6 as well... zoom in n look at it closely.
     
  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    which Doubled Die on coppercoins?
    Can you be *very* specific, provide the link and comparison photos of your coin and the one on the website ?

    Also, do you know they can use thousands of dies each year to produce coinage?

    Proof dies (for proof cents) are different than regular circulation dies. And die markers are only good for "additional supportive id/secondary identification", not as primary identifiers to identify an error.
     
  5. Jj Oliva

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  6. Jj Oliva

    Jj Oliva Member

    Yes I understand that n im not arguing the fact... .. So im just asking.. Your telling me you dont see the doubling on this coin? All the broken sariffs? The spread?? Again Im just asking ???
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Broken sariffs?
     
  8. Jj Oliva

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  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    No

    Neither does anyone else including NGC (and probably not PCGS, ANACS, ICG)

    Thus the question .. can you provide specific comparison photos of your coin and the one on coppercoins to show us what you are seeing ?
     
  11. Jj Oliva

    Jj Oliva Member

    NEVERMIND ... WE'LL LEAVE IT ALONE... ALL IN DUE TIME BUDDY ALL IN DUE TIME...
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Jj Please understand that visual ( By Sight) doubling effect may be machine doubling Damage ; die deterioration doubling Damage; poor angled reflections, appearing as doubling ( all which are no value as they were not caused by mint preparation and strike, they were caused after the coin was struck by the dies, so no mint variety, just damage.

    And then there is the 1969 S DDO-001, which was caused by rotation of the die during the hubbing process due to mint employee error before the coins were struck. Those are the expensive ones as they were due directly to mint mistake. ( message #7. If you do not know what "hubbing " and the mint processes are, it is very hard or impossible to separate the true DD from the damage. It takes time and study.
    The TPG was correct and most of the above members also. Good evening, Jim
     
  13. Autoturf

    Autoturf Well-Known Member

    Now that you have the information you need JJ, Keep looking, get the other 5 or that roll of them you have graded, I did some research for you considering perhaps I was not helpful. you coin is not under pcgs warranty.

    PCGS # 3422
    Date, mintmark 1969-S
    Denomination 1C
    Country The United States of America
    Grade PR67RD
    Mintage 2,934,631
    Holder Type PCGS Gold Shield
    Population 145
    Pop Higher 390
    PCGS Price GuideSM Value: $8
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I used to own a Cameo SS, loved that car!
     
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