'O' what a great coin.

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  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Whenever I have the chance to grab an 'O' mint denarius I will. I only had one in my collection and this one makes 2. Some speculate that the 'O' mint is Ephesus but no one is 100% sure where these were minted. According to RIC "The location is uncertain and the reason for its production is mysterious". The 'O' is under the bust and is indistinct on my coin. It is near the truncation.

    I know the corn is worn and has only a partial legend on the obverse, but I will still gladly welcome this one into my collection. I have always been attracted to the FIDES PUBL
    denarii. I would love to find the Domitian version.


    Please post your coins of Vespasian and thanks for looking.



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    Vespasian (69 - 79 A.D.) silver denarius. Ephesus mint, 76 A.D.
    19mm., 3,00g
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right.
    Rev: FIDES PVBL, hands clasped over caduceus. two poppies and two corn-ears.
    Catawiki auction May 7, 2019 Sold by Lucernae
     
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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Blasphemy, that coin is a sin!

    Just kidding, that is a very lovely modern coin. Just goes to show that modern people are just as capable of making beautiful coinage like our ancient predecessors....when they copy ancient themes :rolleyes:
     
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  5. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nice pick-up Andrew! The wear doesn't distract from the overall eye-appeal.

    And of course it's much rarer than the one struck at Rome.

    I believe I've already posted my Vespasian and Titus variants of the type elsewhere on CT. So instead, here's my Domitian Caesar.


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    Domitian as Caesar
    AR Denarius, 3.26g
    Ephesus (?) mint, 76 AD (Vespasian)
    RIC 1495 (R). BMC 491. RSC - . RPC 1467 (4 spec.).
    Obv: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r. 'o' mint mark below neck
    Rev: FIDES PVBL; Hands clasped over caduceus, two poppies and two corn ears
    Ex Solidus, eBay, 29 November 2013.
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This is my most photogenic Vespasian:

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    Vespasian, AD 69-79.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.18 g, 18.4 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, AD 73.
    Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII CEN, laureate head, right.
    Rev: SALVS AVG, Salus seated left, holding patera, left hand at side.
    Refs: RIC 58; RIC 2.1 522; BMCRE 87-89; Cohen/RSC 432; CBN 76; RCV 2307.
     
  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    What a lovely portrait of Domitian. I would like one of those.
     
  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A very nice portrait of Vespasian.
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Titus 7.jpg
    TITUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: T CAES IMP VESP CENS, laureate head right, "o" beneath neck
    REVERSE: FIDES PVBL, hands clasped over caduceus, two poppies and two corn-ears
    Struck at Uncertain Asian Mint or Ephesus, 76AD
    2.9g, 19mm
    RIC V 1485 (Vesp), RPC 1459
    Ex David Atherton; ex Harry Sneh Collection; ex Sayles; ex Lavender
     
  10. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Nice find Andrew! I have several "O" mint Flavians. Here's one:

    domitian Fides.jpg

    CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS
    Laureate head right

    FIDES PVBL
    Hands clasped over caduceus, two poppies and two corn ears

    Uncertain eastern "O" mint

    76 AD

    3.21g

    RIC 1495 (R)

    Ex-TC collection, Ex-Calgary Coin
     
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  11. Parthicus Maximus

    Parthicus Maximus Well-Known Member

    Nice coin! This is my Vespasian. With an early portrait from the first half of 70. Vespasian 69-79 . AR Denarius . IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG. laureate head to the right. Vespasian as. August. Imperator Caesar Vespasian August. COS ITER TR POT. Pax to the left with branch and staff. Struck. January-June 70. In Rome 18mm 3,46g Ric 29 Ex Romancoinshop. JA1810-vespasian-1-600x600.jpg
     
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  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    or even when they come up with their own designs:
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    Forgive the blasphemy, but one of these days I'm going to own one of these suckers.
     
  13. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper


    And one could argue that the American Liberty is really a hybrid between the Anunnaki Goddess Inanna and the Roman Goddess Libertas.

    Is there any truth to that? Judge for yourself.:eek::rolleyes:

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    statuelibertyinanna.jpg

    Even holding the tree branch is nothing new really...

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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    The statue of Liberty was originally intended as a commission for the khedive of Egypt, standing at Port Said in celebration of the opening of the Suez Canal. However, when he couldn't pay it was re-purposed and sent to America. Little known fact.

    Here's my Vespasian Alexandrian tet:

    Vespasian (A.D. 69-79) Billon Tetradrachm of Alexandria, Egypt. 26mm 11.98 grams

    Obverse: Laureate bust right, LB in front (Year 2, 69-70 A.D.)

    AYTOK KAIΣ ΣEBA OYVEΣΠAΣIANOY

    Reverse: Nike Advancing Left, holding wreath and palm branch

    Reference: RPC 2412, Koln 276, Milne 393, BMCGr 236, Emmet 205.2, Dattari 360

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  15. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    I did a little work on this series and what I noticed that there were a number of issues. After the EPHE issue there was the star * and then the star /annulet issue */o I thought that it would seem most likely that the annulet o issue probably would follow. I did notice some similarities in the portraiture in some of the annulet issues to those in the previous * and */o issues. I mentioned this to Carradice and that how I became a footnote in RIC
    Vespasian Denarius Annulet issue RIC 1477
    Domitian Denarius Annulet issue RIC 1491
    Titus Denarius Star issue RIC 1459 vespd9.JPG eastdomit1.jpg titusd9.JPG
     
  16. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Very nice examples Terence.
     
  17. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Although I tend to agree the inclusion of an annulet points to Ephesus as a likely candidate for the mystery 'o' mint, many of the annulet and star coin portraits from 74 don't look anything like the 'o' mint's from 76. Which of course is to be expected with a two year gap in production.

    74 AD Star and Annulet Issue


    V1464.jpg Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.49g
    Ephesus mint, 74 AD
    RIC 1464 (R2). BMC p. 99, †. RSC 68 corr. RPC 852 (5 spec.).
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS V TR P P P; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r., annulet at tip of bust
    Rev: CONCORDIA AVG; Ceres, std. l., on ornate high-backed chair, with corn ears and poppy and cornucopiae; below throne, annulet; in exergue, star
    Ex Savoca, eBay, 2 March 2018.


    V1465a.jpeg Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.02g
    Ephesus mint, 74 AD
    RIC 1465 (R2). BMC - . RSC - . RPC - .
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPAS AVG COS V TR P P P; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: PACI AVGVSTAE; Victory adv. r., with wreath and palm; at lower l., annulet, at lower r., star
    Ex Ancient Treasures, eBay, 26 July 2015.


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    Titus as Caesar
    AR Denarius, 2.74g
    Ephesus mint, 74 AD (Vespasian)
    RIC 1469 (R2). BMC 477. RSC - . RPC 856 var.
    Obv: IMP T CAESAR COS III; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r., annulet at tip of bust
    Rev: CONCORDIA AVG; Ceres std. l., on ornate high-backed chair, with corn ears and poppy and cornucopiae; below throne, annulet; in exergue, star
    Ex Gemini IX, 8 January 2012, Harry N. Sneh Collection, lot 429


    V1470.jpg
    Titus as Caesar
    AR Denarius, 3.00g
    Ephesus Mint, 74 AD (Vespasian)
    RIC 1470(C). BMC 479. RSC 123. RPC 857 (3 spec.).
    Obv: IMP T CAESAR COS III; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: PACI AVGVSTAE (from high r.); Victory adv. r., with wreath and palm; at lower r. star; below, annulet
    Ex Harry N. Sneh Collection.



    76 AD Annulet ('o' Mint) Issue

    V1473b.jpg
    Vespasian

    AR Denarius, 2.78g
    Ephesus (?) mint, 76 AD
    RIC 1473 (R). BMC 482. RSC 114a. RPC 1451 (4 spec.).
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r., a small 'o' mint mark below neck
    Rev: COS VII above; Pegasus r.
    Ex Welch Collection. Acquired from eBay, January 2013.

    V1475.jpg Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.48g
    Ephesus (?) mint, 76 AD
    RIC 1475 (R). BMC 490. RSC 163a. RPC 1452 (6 spec.).
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r., a small 'o' mint mark below neck
    Rev: FIDES PVBL; Hands clasped over caduceus, two poppies and two corn ears
    Acquired from Malter Galleries, December 2010.


    V1481.jpg Titus as Caesar
    AR Denarius, 3.29g
    Ephesus (?) mint, 76 AD (Vespasian)
    RIC 1481 (R). BMC 485. RSC 61. RPC 1457 (4 spec.).
    Obv: T CAESAR IMP VESP CENS; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r. 'o' mint mark below neck off flan
    Rev: COS V across field;Eagle stg. facing on garlanded altar, wings open, head r.
    Ex Harry N. Sneh Collection.


    V1486.jpg Titus as Caesar
    AR Denarius, 3.04g
    Ephesus (?) mint, 76 AD (Vespasian)
    RIC 1486 (R2). BMC - . RSC - . RPC 1460 (2 spec.).
    Obv: T CAES IMP VESP CENS; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r. 'o' mint mark below neck off flan
    Rev: PON MAX TR P COS V; Winged caduceus
    Ex Ancient Treasures, eBay, March 2011.
     
  18. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    I am wondering if the Titus */o RIC 1470 is done by the same guy who did my Domintian annulet RIC 1491
     
  19. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the "o" coin post and all of the great "o" coins - especially the RIC 1491 of @Terence Cheesman. I have no "o", here's a Vespasian - nothing rare as this is "C3" in RIC II - extremely common - 10 time more common than common in hoards - I do like the portrait, and the pious Vespasian on his curule chair with his scepter and olive branch on the reverse.
    Vespasian PontifMax sm.jpg
    Vespasian, AR Denarius
    Rome, AD 73
    Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG CENS inscribed counter clockwise outwardly, laureate head right
    Rev: PONTIF MAXIM inscribed counter clockwise outwardly, Vespasian seated right on curule chair, feet resting on footstool, holding scepter and olive-branch
    Size: 3.49g, 19.9mm
    Ref: RIC 546
     
  20. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    It's possible! If not the same mint, the two issues probably shared the same engravers.

    Compare that Titus Caesar RIC 1470 to the 'o' mint Vespasian RIC 1473. Very similar, which is why I posted them!
     
  21. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is my o mint 1473.

    Vespasian RIC 1473.png
     
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