I tried handling this peacefully . . . Now what do I do?

He may be doing this also to get back at you for not selling him the coin or whatever. Not that you can prove it, I guess.

 

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Maybe it's a simple answer. Maybe he knows that you know what you are doing with that specific area of coins. And then maybe he sees if you want a particular coin, then it must be really great. And then he wants it too.

Just seems like a lot of effort for someone with a grudge, that's all.

 

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Maybe so, but let me ask this, since I am not sure you answered it before: is this guy on every one he does this for actually bidding during the time it's open (bidding against you so that you see at the end that he was in it) or is he doing this after you bid on something where he has not participated in the bidding? Because it may be not that he's got a grudge against you, but he could recognise that there are coins you want that he does and by not bidding but then convincing the seller to sell to him is a cheaper way to get a coin he wants than bidding against you or allowing you to have it and then try to buy it from you.

 

Part of me thinks this is paranoia and isn't really the case each time you suspect that it is. But I don't know that, certainly. Just seems like a butt ton of trouble for him to do. Start a new buying account, maybe...

 

Yeah, except how many others is he doing this too.
How many sellers are ok with the practice?

 

Oh no I agree, what he is doing isn't right. And depends on how ethical the sellers choose to be too.

I'm just saying why he might be doing it. I didn't say any of it was ethical. I Don't want any confusion there.

 

ToughCOINS: It's been a long time since I bid on anything on eBay, so my suggestion may be flawed. But what if you laid out the following story for eBay: You bid a max bid of $100 for a coin but wind up buying it for $60. Your interloper comes along and convinces the seller to sell it to him for $70. Point out to the eBay rep that if your shadow had bid the $70 he paid rather than contact the seller with the offer, your $100 max bid would mean that you'd automatically top his $70. I don't know the bid increments but you'd be above his $70 bid, which means eBay's commission would increase...if eBay forced your interloper to bid rather than waiting until the coin had been sold. Maybe if you can convince eBay that your "friend's" unethical behavior is costing eBay profit, then eBay might be more willing to shut down his behavior. Regardless, you have my sympathy.

Mark

 

If the jerk is getting sellers to cancel sales and then relist the coin so he can buy it, that's one thing. If he's setting up the deals outside of eBay, that's fee evasion, plain and simple, and I'm surprised eBay isn't all over it.

 

I agree, but how come you can relist coins which just sold w/o any repercussions?

 

Because buyers don't have to pay

 

That Fee Evasion I got busted for that on the bay twice... I was buying items or coins by taking the risks and sending a money order avoiding Ebay fees. I would ask the seller right on the ebay messaging center if they would accept a money order. It worked for several years then they hit twice once for 30 days suspension of buying and the second time was another 30 or so days cant rightly recall second time punishment... Nothing new..I always had problems with rules, policies and authority figures..

 

We have all heard the saying that actions speak louder than words. There is something however that comes before [actions].
That little action of the mind is called Intent.
Intention is the key variable that makes this act of breaking a contract maddening.
Since we are not mind readers you will never know really why someone would backdoor so many in this manner. So I think about it this way.
With 168 million people and growing actively using Ebay it stands to reason that at all times somewhere somehow there is a hustle or scam taking place. The unpredictable nature of these ruthless individuals makes it hard for the entity known as Ebay to police. As someone who has been accused of being a conspiracy theorist I air on the side of caution when confronting individuals who seemingly are unabashed. Targeting a subgroup who are selling grandma's china or uncle Frank's belt buckles doesn't really have an eventual payoff if they, the sellers,( or buyers for that matter)are profiled. You however are able to be put into a category for predators. I myself am careful to not take some things to advocacy. Professional thieves (or rings) walk amongst the petty.
If this is just an individual edited getting a giddy thrill from behind his keyboard. Then I still would let it be and just let him float around the punchbowl.

 

lol