Probus Antoninianus

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  1. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Probus AE Antoninianus. Antioch mint. IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / CLEMENTIA TEMP, emperor standing right with sceptre, receiving Victory from Jupiter standing left with sceptre, H in lower centre with dot. Mintmark XXI.
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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  4. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Sweet coin @CoinBlazer !! I'm still lacking Probus as I've yet to find one that has called to me.

    I don't think XXI is a mintmark but rather a value. If I recall correctly it denotes twenty parts bronze to one part silver. Someone should be along shortly the verify or correct me if I'm wrong.

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  5. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Sweet Probus. Yeah, XXI is a mark of value.

    Here's a tetradrachm of Probus...

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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That is correct. The coin is from Antioch and the H is an officina mark. Here's the listing in RIC V2:

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  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Officina marks on these later imperial coins are so much fun because they give you an idea of just how many mints there were by this point throughout the empire. Things are a lot simpler if you only stick to pre 260CE coins. Back then it was all pretty much Rome Mint, with an occasional extra mint here or there, but mostly just Rome.
     
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  9. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Yeah the Wild winds sections I was referencing was showing it as the mint mark. I took that attribution and modified it just a bit.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Probus

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    RI Probus 276-282 CE Ant 21mm Rome mint captive on ground Riding Horse in ex R-Thunderbolt-Z RIC 155


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  11. Marsman

    Marsman Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. This is my ‘longneck’ coin :happy:



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    Probus, silvered antoninianus
    Rome mint, 7th officina
    279 AD
    23.5 mm, 3.7g
    Obv. IMP PRO-BVS AVG, Bust of Probus, radiate and cuirassed, facing right
    Rev. ADVEN-TVS AVG, Probus, in military attire, on horseback left, raising his right hand in salute and holding sceptre in his left; to left, seated captive; in exergue: R, crescent, ς
    RIC V 157
     
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  12. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Nice coin. Probus coins are fun - the man had some fashion sense!

    Mine actually is the same as @Marsman's but 4th officina

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    I eventually hope to supplement this with a martial bust and a consular "swag suit"
     
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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I checked all through ACSearch, and found no reverse with a split horse like mine.

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    RI Probus 276-282 CE Ant 21mm Rome mint captive on ground Riding Horse in ex R-Thunderbolt-Z RIC 155

    I am now pretty sure that this was a TOP-SECRET experiment that the Legions were working on: The first MECHANIZED Cavalry. See a design spec below...
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    I think their eyes shot LASER-BEAMS also....

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  15. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    My unique Probus Ex Phillipe Gysen

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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Yes, I prefer to call it an alloy mark to avoid confusion that some have calling the XXI a denomination or relation like 21 of these make something else. Did everyone notice that the coin posted by ancient coin hunter was from a mint that replaced the XXI mark with the Greek numeral equivalent KA? Either way it is a ratio of 20 parts copper mixed with 1 part silver. In modern times we tend to say there is one part of silver in a total of a weight or one in twenty rather than one added to twenty. This might seem a minor point but one in twenty is 5% while one added to twenty is 4.76% which is closer to the alloy tests that I have seen reported on these.

    A couple more KA coins are below. We might also mention that many mints of the period left the top of the A more open than we might like making the letter look like an H. Today we modern computer users can select from hundreds of fonts. We need to allow for the ancient Romans having some variety in the way they made letters, too. rs2750bb1765.jpg
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  17. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    New Probus arrived today.. purchased from a CoinTalk member..
    Really nice toning.

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    RIC 215, Antoninianus
    OBV.: PROBVS P F AVG
    Radiate, and cuirassed bust right.
    REV.: VICTORIA AVG
    Victory advancing left, holding wreath and trophy.
    R (thunderbolt) S in exergue (if that is an "s" .. also see "stigma" (6) ?)
    22mm, 4.5 g.
     
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  18. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    That looks nice.
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

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