Time for another Guess the Grade™

It isn't flaking off and on the reverse it seems to really be part of the toning, but I do see where you're coming from not having seen it in hand. I guess we'll find out...I'll post the results of the cross when I send it in my next submission.

 

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I'm not buying the MS65, but the PL may be there. I would use a piece of black paper or cardboard, cut a hole for the camera lense, then position the coin where the black reflects into the mirrors, and take a couple more pics.

If the coin is PL the fields will appear darker. If not, then allow the light to fully engulf the coin, set you camera to take a darker picture. This may show the "liquid" aspect of the fields.

If this doesn't work, then try showing a bright object reflecting in the fields like a postage stamp or something.

 

i am very curious to see how this coin regrades. personally I wouldnt push my luck.

 

i am sure if you sent it to NCS they would conserve it for you

 

Appears I might be the only one, but I like it the way it is and don't think the coin would benefit from being sent to NCS.

 

I don't see any peeling of laquer. The coin was kept in a damp environment, and toned.

 

I didn't say that, but I don't see any peeling. What I have seen is lacquer peeling in more jagged edges. Of course, if the coin is in a holder this may not happen vs. the coin being raw. I will admit, it's difficult to determine what's going on with this coin.

I just think it looks more like "album" toning. It may have been stored in a paper envelope that was subjected to moisture and humidity. The toning looks more like staining then a coating.

 

you said it- its a stain a lacquer stain

 

Lacquer does not stain a coin; but used to keep coins from tarnish or toning. However, if it's applied unevenly it can cause streaking or 'holes' and the coin can actually tone underneath the lacquer. Furthermore, lacquer tends to crack and peel in flaky pieces (which is not the case with this picture), and if this coin was coated in lacquer it should show over-all toning and not just underneath the lacquer.

It stands to reason, if the coin was to tone under the lacquer, then how much more would it tone on the said uncoated areas?

For all I know, in the past, a previous owner may have used a substance to carefully remove some of the toning, but stopped short of their goal for some reason, producing the effect we are discussing.

 

if you look at the right wing tip and near the neck you can see its not toning. i guess we will know soon enough when DJ sends the coin in

 

Oh, it's toning; toning from being stored in an environment with moisture (humidity), and a substance found in cardboard or plastic or some other storage device.

 

So, when are you sending it in DJ?

Phoenix

 

Hmmmmm. :goof:

Eagle's lower right (facing) wing, neck... very sharply defined "toning" lines. Upper left wing and southeast of the tail, as well.

It's true... natural toning is almost always a gradual change in shade. Something looks odd on this one - particularly the reverse.

Post up when you get the result, DJ ! Good luck.

 

thank you 900