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  1. 1865King

    1865King Well-Known Member

    MS 63
     
    1865King, Apr 24, 2019
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  3. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    MS65BN. Excellent post!!:)
     
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  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    A most passionate time in US history regarding opinion and belief........probably never to be repeated, as more men died fighting in the Civil War than all other American wars combined.
     
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  5. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    Interesting write up. Thank you for the information and, about the coin... possibly MS64
     
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  6. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    64 bn pretty coin.
     
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Joshua (Chamberlain) would most likely be in total agreement.........:)

    I'm fickle.......I'm at '63, but the images by OP are astounding. :)
     
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  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    May be a New England boy but my family came from the south I wish the war had a different outcome a lot of my family fought for the confederacy
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    And I'm the opposite. I'm a Southerner born and bred, but my ancestors fought for the North, and while I lament the national tragedy, I think the war had the right outcome. Had I been alive in that time, and forced to participate, I would have been torn (just as many people including Robert E. Lee were), but I would likely have ended up in a blue coat, marching under the Stars and Stripes, just like my ancestor, a colonel Norton (later general) did.

    But who's to say? It would be difficult to put one's self in their shoes. For one weekend in 1985 I was in a reenactment as part of a "Confederate" unit, reenacting the Battle of Natural Bridge in Florida, which took place in 1865, and was a very late Confederate victory. Living as they did for one weekend, pretending it was 1865, wearing the scratchy wool clothing, sleeping in damp hay on the hard ground, slapping mosquitoes, drilling with a model 1863 Springfield .58-caliber musket, and cooking over an open fire, it was very educational, if not always comfortable.

    But let's get back to coins and not stray into politics. That's a lovely Indian cent. I'm not sure of the numerical grade (forgot if the OP told me that in one of our text message conversations), but it's sure to have the BN designation, and I must say that these days I prefer copper coins in BN or RB with nice color (like this one) to full RD pieces much of the time.

    It's a beauty, regardless of the technical grade.
     
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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    agreed the comfort and firepower were lacking then and I prefer the rb and bn myself. I sold my ms 64 rd large cent because my ms 66 cac bn large cent was far more attractive
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Oh, having fired that .58 caliber musket at a Coke can with a Minié ball round in it (blew the can in half), I will say that firepower was not lacking then! Accuracy and range, sometimes, maybe, but those bullets were the size of a robin's egg! Makes you shudder all the more to think of what it must have been like to be on the receiving end of one of those. I've dug some Minie bullets on a site here that were .69 caliber!

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    If you got hit in an arm or a leg, the surgeon cut off that limb. Hit in the main torso of your body, especially the abdomen, and you were a goner, from the infection, if not the actual trauma. Probably best if you croaked from the trauma, rather than the lingering, miserable end those with infections and/or gangrene suffered.

    Life was not easy then, even in peacetime. In war, it was all the more horrible.

    When I spent that weekend in "1865", living as they did, I was recovering from the flu, which gave me some sense of the misery many Civil War soldiers must have had to cope with, since disease killed far, far more men than bullets or shells did.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Though it strays a bit off the topic of 1865 and the Civil War, I'd love to see that MS66 BN large cent. Those were still in many people's pockets in 1865, I would imagine, though more in the North than in the South.
     
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  13. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    PR65 Fancy 5
     
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  14. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    No I know well. And of course the cannon balls grapeshot and mortars firing whatever scrap nails etc they could put in. And the inventions of the colt revolver and other patented revolvers and then the union getting the Henry repeating rifle midway through added a lot. Those old guns will kick your ass I’ve shot them too. But compared to world war 1 and 2 Vietnam and now with tanks the m-16 the classic BAR and others there’s no comparison. Conditions were miserable then. Worse during the revolution and the flu killed more soldiers during world war 1 than combat. War isn’t fun
     
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  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

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    Here’s the one I sold the one I kept and a cool civil war coin though it’s a 64 not 5
     
    Mainebill, Apr 25, 2019
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is the only MS-66 graded large cent I have.

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    This one is graded MS-65, and I think that it is better.

    1820 Cent O.jpg 1820 Cent R.jpg
     
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  17. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

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    Thanks to all for guessing - When I purchased this one, I felt it presented in the images as gem...great color, clean portrait. Knowing the assigned grade though, I assumed there was another reason for it and expected muted luster/dull surfaces at the very least.

    When she arrived, I saw that wasn’t the case... the luster was fantastic, easily on par with my recently acquired 1902 1C in MS65. The color was more vibrant and even better than I expected as well. However, there are a few hairlines in the left obverse field, one in particular from Liberty’s chin to the D in UNITED. They are barely visible in photographs (I didn’t see them anyway, perhaps some of you did), but I suspect that is the main cause of the 63 grade on an otherwise stunning piece. She’s definitely here to stay!

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    Feel free to post an American Civil War era coin (1861-1865) if you’ve got ‘em and stay tuned for more historical GTG’s! :pompous::bookworm:
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Home schooled by public school system. I'll say proof
     
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Sad ain't it. Boy am i glad were done with that north and south thing
     
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  20. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    When I visited my Grandmother in 1961, she was still fighting the war, and the South was the victor. My great grand father was stationed in Kentucky during those years, but survived to raise 10 children in Butcher Hollow, Ky. James Marion Butcher was his name. I can't find out much about him, but I try to imagine what life was like in those days. He was born in 1835 and died in 1880. He served in Ford's Battalion, Calvary, M-W, Freeman's Regiment, Calvary, A-C.
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

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