Your Best Examples of Late Roman 4th-5th Cent. AE

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Crispus 5.jpg
    CRISPUS
    AE3
    OBVERSE: D N FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: PROVIDEN TIAECAESS Jupiter stg. l., chlamys across l. shoulder, leaning on scepter, holding Victory on globe. In field to l., palm branch; in field to r., dot A; in exergue, SMN
    Struck at Nicomedia 317 - 320 A.D
    2.92g, 18mm
    RIC VII 32
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  4. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Great pieces, again a thread that sharpens your eye.
    Here's Maximinus II Daia, ex-Tom Cederlind:

    2572 Daia.jpg

    Licinius II:

    2695 Licinius ii ct.jpg

    Constantinus II as caesar, Siscia 320:

    2767 Constn ii Siscia.jpg

    Constantius II, my best FTR:

    2774 FTR ct.jpg

    Decentius, ex-John Anthony:

    2785 Decentius.jpg

    Magnus Maximus, issued in Lyon:

    2842 Magn Max ct.jpg
    Theodosius I, minted in Cyzicus, 388-392:

    2846 Theodosius.jpg

    Don't forget the barbs! This is a follis following one of Constantinus II as caesar, Siscia, about 320. These Balkan celators were not at all bad celators, they took pains to copy the lettering, even if they were probably illiterate: CONSTNT INNS NN C, laureate head right / D N CONSTNNT NNNNN C, VOT/V in two lines; all within laurel wreath; •SIS•. 17mm, 2.92 gr, with some silvering.

    2952 B Const ii ct.jpg
     
  5. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    You asked for the fifth century. I gave up on that century, because it was so hard to find anything decent. This is the best I have:

    Marcian, Eastern Emperor (450-457), minted in Constantinopolis:

    2851 Marcianus ct.jpg
     
  6. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    That’s a really nice coin! These are usually in terrible shape. It’s amazing how fast bronze coinage declined after Theodosius I died. Coins of the late 4th century in good shape are common. After 395-ish, good luck!
     
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  7. kolyan760

    kolyan760 Well-Known Member

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  8. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

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    Licinius

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    Constantine the not so great

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    Maximian

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    Crispus
     
  10. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    @David@PCC: That's a nice example of a tougher Zeno type. It rarely shows in full but I think there is a supposed to be a reverse legend of ZENO, although I don't see a hint of it on your coin

    Here's my personal favorite of a Zeno ae4:


    Zeno SECN.jpg
    Obv: DN ZENO SE AVG; Bust right
    Rev: SE-CN; Victory advancing left, head right, holding wreath and dragging captive, a christogram in left field; all within wreath

    What SECN stands for I have no idea.
     
  11. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    What mint(s) made this type? Rome?
     
  12. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    RIC X speculates that "The legend SE-CN is perhaps a devolved form of ZENO, which is found on the reverse of other types." (pg 120)
     
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  13. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    Hey VK; RIC has the mint as Constantinople, which makes sense

    That was my thinking also but it's interesting the obverse legend is DN ZENO SE AVG. Perhaps the obverse legend ties in somehow to the reverse SECN.
     
  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    @Brian Bucklan , I have one of those too:

    Zeno5thC.jpg
    I got it from a Kovacs fixed-price list in 1987. Later, Hahn used the photo for a plate coin in his Moneta Imperii Romani-Byzantini, The Ostprägung des Römischen Reiches in 5. Jahrhundret (408-491). Plate 14.24 (enlarged).

    I, too, would welcome a good explanation of the reverse lettering.
     
  15. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I would have to delve into RIC to look further into it but Victor already has done that it looks like. Possibly the S is a field control? Mine has an S as well as CR ECNO, and not in the same direction. I showed both to Vagi years ago.
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    I am already so busy with anonymous persecution research and building a large Seleucid database to research these.
     
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