is this a double die ? if not what is it??HELP???????

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by newbie012, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

    I am new to coin collecting . I found this is it a double die if not can someone please explain what is going on with this coin so I know what I am looking at in the future. thankyou very much.
     

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  3. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Can you post non-pixelated images of the both entire sides?
    Those pics give me a headache.

    Also you may want to say what year / mm the coin is. These things are usually well documented but hard to check on things when the year/mm is unknown.
     
  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Die deterioration ( worn overused die was kept in use over lifetime ) If it was still working they kept using it, but the design starts to move towards the edges. Maybe a little mechanical doubling also. IMO Jim
     
  5. Patrick M

    Patrick M Razor edge MD

    Always take a picture of the obverse and the reverse of the coin and post it also. It helps to know the year and the mint mark.
     
  6. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

    ok give me a few and I will try to take a better photo
     
  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Thnx.
    FYI, it's obviously Die Deterioration anyways from the pixelated pics.

    As a die gets used it's made of metal. Think of your car slamming into another car hundreds of thousands of times ... something sooner or later bends, softens and gets out of whack. Such is the life of a die.

    Plus the coins are made for commerce. "quality" is not a top priority as that is what Proofs are for. Just quantity .. full-speed-ahead, make as many as you can before the die totally dies. As long as the cashier recognizes the denomination then "all is good".
     
  8. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

     

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  9. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

    I appreciate your opinion , the y is broken just like the only other known examples of this coin is that not a thing you are supposed to look for in comparasion . I was wondering if this is not a different stage OF THE DDO,
     
  10. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

    AAS I SAID I AM NEW TO THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOU HELP...
     
  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @newbie012

    PLEASE DON'T YELL AT US!!!!!

    (all caps means yelling :shifty:)
    I know you are excited to collect coins but calm down a bit ;)
     
  12. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

    oops sorry lol,
     
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  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    The Y, just like the R is a result of something hitting it causing damage.

    Even though your coin is "nice" here's a quick list of damage, die deterioration that I quickly see ...

    Ridge Ring (die problem) starting on obverse around 3/4 of the coin
    various damaging hits around the obverse and reverse rim
    damaging hits on the left wheat stalk in various places
    damaging/wear marks on right wheat stalk
    and various hits across all surfaces

    But it is a nice looking 1958 cent good for filling in those dansco albums.

    DDO/DDR is the outcome of someone human causing a problem.

    Die Deterioration is the outcome of actually just using those die to mint the coins. Over time metal wears out - the longevity of a die is max about 3 days.
     
  14. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

  15. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I forgot to add ...
    PMD/ damage is the result of the coin entering circulation and being used.
    coins pile up in purses, cash registers, get banged against each other in pockets, car cup holders, and a gazillion bazillion other damage scenarios.

    any time a coin comes in contact with *anything else* it can cause scratches, gouges, can push metal around, cause indentations and cause unlimited other damage.

    That's the reason they made Proof coins. Proof coins are not made for circulation and should be coddled to maintain it's quality.
     
  16. newbie012

    newbie012 New Member

    ok thankyou. I have another one for you …. I think I understand what you mean by deterioration now. what do you think of this coin ….it is in rough shape to start with....
     

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