GRRR! I got fired a again (this time over a morgan)

ok,
the owner of the place said we exchnage currency if we wanted (say if i wanted 5 ones and put a $5 in place of it in the register),

the reason why i got fired was because, appearantly you can sell the trade dollar for more than $1......thats why....or at least thats what they told me.

BTW: if someone gives me a coin thats non-legal tender and i buy it off them (which is basicaly what i did), then its MY coin, technically has nothing to do with the company

 

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Stainless - sorry about your luck and I think this was a lapse in judgement. Next time ask management what the policy is. And just because the manager does some wrong things, does not mean it is okay for you. So worry about what you do and not what others do. So work on finding another job and do your best at it. And I agree it was probably a fake trade dollar and not really worth the trouble. So whenever in doubt check with management and good luck in the future.

 

Once again; speak for yourself. I happen to be honest. I dont think anyone suggested that stainless be sneaky. What I read was quite the opposite. He should have been more open. Shamful? How do you know the patron wasnt trying to pull a fast one? ''Hey boss! This guy is going to pay you with a trade dollar worth about a hundred bucks for a dollar cup of coffee.''.I'm going to give him back $98.93 in change.''. Or better yet you keep it boss, cause I dont think your ripping off people enough. Charging a dollar for a 20 cent cup of coffee.''. Some of you guys are confusing supervisor..manager..boss..with taskmaster. Employees are not indentured servants.

 

I'm not overly familiar with trade dollar, but I'm assuming it's one of those silver rounds, yes?

So who the heck in the company is in charge of going through the daily receipts and checking for silver and/or coins "worth more then face value" and then taking them to a coin dealer/jeweler and cashing them in??

Stainless if I were you I'd call head office and DEMAND to know what happened to that trade dollar when you left work that day, what the company did with it, and how much they got for it.

It probably won't do you any good, but kicking up a bit of a stink about it might get our favorite manager in a little hot water, or at least give him something to think about. And if he pocketed it himself... OH BOY! lol

 

stainless, expect to be fired again. And again. You just don't get it.

 

Be VERY careful handing out change to customers at that business. You could be fired under that policy if you gave a customer a Wheat Back cent or a 90% silver coin in change. Those can be sold for more than face value.

Cashiers there should carry a 20X loupe to check every coin for varieties. You don't want to be caught handing out any of the following coins in change: doubled dies (e.g., 1968-D quarter) or repunched mintmarks (e.g., 1969-D dime).

The owner of that business should have two cash registers - one that ALL coins received by employees go into so he can search them later and another one that has coins that he has searched and OKed for employees to give out in chage. That should take care of the problem.

 

Craig,

From an earlier post, "It's much better to make that exchange discretely so as to not appear like you are stealing. I probably would have gotten change for a $5 and taken the Trade Dollar and four $1 bills." So much for being open. Everything that comes into the business belongs to the owner unless and until the owner says otherwise. Anyone who won't follow that code of behavior is either dishonest or ethically challenged. Maybe they'll get away with it. Maybe they'll be fired. It doesn't affect the morality of the situation.

 

and what dont i get

 

If the owner wants to run the business that way, the employees can either comply, quit, or ignore the policy and be fired. What you are missing is that this is a question of who gets to decide. And the answer is, the employer. It doesn't matter whether the policy is good or bad or profitable or unprofitable. As an employee, you don't get to decide.

There sure are a lot of people here that I wouldn't want working for me. Fortunately, they don't.

 

how is it dishonest?

what i did was BUY a trade dollar for a dollar so he could pay his cup of coffee....

so if your a bussiness man, and say if i didnt know about coins and i accepted this, would you be ok with this since you just basically lost money

he owed a dollar, what he gave was a trade dollar, a coin that is no longer used

 

I guess i dont either

 

NEWSFLASH!!!!!!

guess who just called?

the OWNER:hail:


the manger i was working with got fired for stealing food....
haha, he got caught...

anyways....the owner doesnt really care about what i did and doesnt understand why i got fired in the first place....

he said the trade dollar is gone so he dont know whats going on=[

the good news is i got my job back.....I guess basically because I'm one of his best workers and he knows I'm honest, (the fact that I'm good freinds with his son probobly helps too)

so yep, Im happy now, although, i dont know if i really want to go back in to work tommorrow

 

GO TO WORK tomorrow. That will show the owner more than anything. Plus ask the owner what you should do in that situation again. MAKE sure you are clear on what you should do.

 

At least you answered your own question about what you don't get.

The customer did not give YOU a trade dollar. He gave the business a trade dollar. Whatever comes into the business belongs to the business. Your superior numismatic knowledge does not confer any rights on you over your employer. This is so basic that anyone who can't understand it has very little chance in life.

 

More accurately, he thinks you're honest because he doesn't know what is going on. This gives you a second chance. Consider changing your attitude. Second chances are a rare gift. Don't blow it.

 

nice words, so basically i have no chance in life!

he did not give the CO. the trade dollar..I basically bought it off him with my own dollar to pay his coffee...hence it makes it mine and has nothing to do with the Co.

 

I really hope that you are not implying that I have no ethics, integrity or honesty. I probably have more than most people. I do not see the harm in replacing say a silver dime with a clad one from my pocket, the company gets their money. Same thing here, it is just a dollar , not a dime. Who is harmed in this 'crime'? I guess I would be fired pretty quickly if I worked in retail, because there's no way I am going to let even a silver dime get by me.

 

i am honest....i dont think i did anything wrong...if i thought it was stealing i wouldn't have done it...

 

I'm pretty much with Jim M on this one. Although it may seem trivial to many you must go through the chain of command.

I spent many years handling money and ALWAYS made it a point to let my bosses know that I collected it. None ever had a problem with it. I really did it to let them know if they saw me yanking a $20 note out of the register one of mine was going in it's place.

The owner of the truck stop I managed used to call me into the office when the bookeeper got back from the bank so I could go through HIS money. He turned out to be a jerk but was really cool in that aspect.

Now my wife handles cash. Her manager used to actually work for me so it's cool. Recently their DM came in and noticed a $20 note upside down in the drawer. He asked why (my wife was off that day) and the manager told him she was saving it for me. He thought it was cool. No problem.


The only problem I really have with this whole scenario is the manager actually. It's not HIS dollar it's the company's. Were I managing this place I would have had a long talk with Stainless to set it straight. Hey, if his drawer balances after shift they have lost NOTHING. Believe me - good cashiers are hard to find.