Varietys have been found many years after the coins were produced. In fact one of our members found a 1919 Merc. DDO a few years back. @jtlee321 Personally it looks like the coin has some severe Die deterioration doubling, noticed on the 9 and 2 of the date. The outside top of the MM is also suffering from DDD. The other two areas of the MM seem to be from circulation damage (PMD). There is no doubt from looking at the coin as a whole that it has had a rough life and to tell certain characteristics it has seen to much circulation to actually give it a variety no matter if it is or not.
Yeah. I do agree. I think the "2" is real and also shows the "twisting" characteristic of some die doubling...but it's too ugly to garner any credence or merit, regardless.
Although it does have the twisting look that you say. Die deterioration can mimic the look of true doubling at times. But the coin is looked at as a whole and all it's characteristics are used to figure if it fits into one of the 9 classifications of doubled dies. 10 if you include single squeeze hubbing. http://doubleddie.com/58222.html
To clarify, I was not the one who discovered the 1919 DDO Mercury Dime, it was a member on another forum who also shared here. I located the 4th known example. I did discover the 1913-D T1 Buffalo Nickel DDR-001 found here. So far it's my only discovery.
Hey, one more comment that I didn't want to mention. Do you notice Lincolns bufont hair? How high it appears in the area between "WE" and "TRUST"? Between the E and the T?
Fyi, when I said "real" I meant, not PMD. Not a real die doubling. ...or at least not that could be confirmed, as we agree.
There is enough damage done to the cent through the years that I didn't look at anything but what you were asking.
Please take the the time to read a learn how dies are made. There is good info in some of the sites that have been referenced in your previous posts. Once you have a basic understanding, you'll realize how silly it sounds trying to claim that maybe the "bufont" hairstyle could be an error. Quit grasping. You have a coin that was struck by worn dies that has been around the block a few times. No matter how much you try to wish it into an error, it isn't
Lol. I understand more than you do. Question is whether the hair is doubled or not. To say there is never hair doubling, which you have illustrates poor understanding of the scope of doubling. Your failure to recognize the overlap and mixing of die doubling with other doubling, and even strike doubling, illustrates your complete lack of insight into the dynamics of "error" varieties over time. Lastly, your incessant ramblings on this board show a low IQ of a person who attempts to prop themselves up on the criticism of others. You cannot expect that the plethora of new people making comments are going to know that you are wrong with your critiques. I do. Any quips or side notes, jokes, or off-the-cuff comments are met with brutal condemnation from you. You take a fun hobby and turn it into a way to pump yourself up with Freudian power trips. You are wrong. I demonstrate a complete understanding with a lighthearted fondness of the differences found in coin searching. You are a horrible person. Please stop trolling me. I am 100% more educated and understanding than you.
I am in 100% agreement with @Oldhoopster If trolling happened when someone didn't hear what they wanted then we all would be trolls. Picking apart a worn and damaged coin is clearly only what a newbie does. That would mean you @i2i . It is because you don't have a grasp on how dies are made/ the minting process and clearly why you will try to point out something that is nothing. I have never ignored anyone on here, you are not going to get the benefit either. But please understand that I am here to help teach as is oldhoopster, if you don't like it to bad. Show us that you are more educated because you have yet to do it!
I'll accept the criticism of not always being understanding. I'm usually willing to help new collectors, regardless of how basic the question, but I'm sorry,I don't have patience for people making outlandish claims and then tell knowledgeable members they are wrong. I think those members are pretty good at figuring out who knows what they are talking about who doesn't.
Nice catch on the pillars @i2i, I would also like to see the coin at a little better close up at those areas you circled. Whose the OP of that photo?