1982 D/ 1943 Clash penny! Goose Bumps.

so I noticed something was up with the date on this Penny and a hat closer investigation it blew me away . I noticed a three underneath the two. I couldn't figure out what it was stamped underneath the 8 for a while then I was able to make it out what it was a 4! So I sat back and told myself no way 1943 ?? And in fact the queen does way 3.0-3.1 grams. I looked at the rim on the penny which I don't have posted and you can see the thickness of the room I want side has two different types of copper pressed into each other with in fact would be 2 pennies if I'm not mistaken ? Or was two different dyes used on the same coin ? So I have decided to look at the back to see if I could find we ears on the penny by chance and so do you know it there they are underneath the Lincoln Memorial on the side 1 rings do the FG on up and the left side has it wheat , after I seen that head went blank. I can indeed post more pictures upon request .

 

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Just damage. 1943 cents are made of steel. You have a 1982 copper cent. Probably with damage. Nothing else.

Coins are struck with Dies not dyes.

A clash is when there is no planchet in the striking chamber so the Dies strike each other creating a slight image of each other to be transferred. So when the blank is struck you see faint images of each side.. That Cent is not a clash.

You also need to post full sized pictures of both sides when creating a thread.

@cpm9ball

 

Yeah but there was some made in Copper also and that being said. I don't know how good your eyes are but you're not seeing what I see

 

Yeah but there was some made in Copper also and that being said. I don't know how good your eyes are but you're not seeing what I see

 

Yeah but there was some made in Copper also and that being said. I don't know how good your eyes are but you're not seeing what I see

 

Damage.

 

My eyes are excellent. And I see nothing and I know that after 3 decades of collecting mint errors what you are stating you have is impossible. Good luck.

 

Damage. I'm sorry but it can't be damaged if there's a Lincoln Memorial Cent that has we ears transparent on it and a date that looks like has been stamped with another one. It's not a holographic football card with two images

 

Correct.. It's damaged.

 

Nope sorry. You are seeing things.

 

My posts end here.. You have a damaged 1982 Cent not struck on a 1943 copper cent.

Goodbye.

 

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It is just damaged as stated.

 

So your saying that you think you have a rare 1943 copper cent that was overstruck in 1982. Is that correct?

 

Mr. P., didn't you get the notice? The train heading to BoobTube broke down at the CT station.

Chris

 

No. Did not happen.
1) US mint did not keep a 1943 cent for 39 years without discovering it, just so it could appear in a batch of planchets and then be fed into the striking chamber. Basically because the production is a high speed type operation to keep things moving along and not get stuck by stockpiling at various points. Metal is rolled and punched into blanks and then fed into the upset mill which puts the edge on the blanks, creating planchets. Then these are fed into the striking chamber. For yours to occur as you think it has, a struck coin needs to be in with the group either before the upset mill or somehow get in after but before the striking chamber. Only two ways for that to happen... it either has remained in a cart (if they use one) that transports the blanks to the upset mill and/or the planchets to the striking chamber for, like, 39 years, unnoticed by any mint worker in those years and if so, the mint has to use the exact same carts as then, or a mint worker has to bring it in and toss it in randomly to the planchets. Either scenario is bad, and the only viable one is actually if a mint worker brought it in. But that would not be likely at all. There is no way a striking chamber used in 1982 could retain a 1943 cent for the 39 years difference and then be reused with 1982 dies. Equipment updates and differences in the equipment as well as cleaning for actual usage.
2) If a mint worker actually did that, they would probably have no chance of retaining it as it would have to go at high speed from the striking chamber into bins to be bagged, and also pass through some sort of inspection area. It is possible any one coin minted would get through an inspection, but we are talking about a steel cent. There is absolutely, in the case of a 1943 cent, no way anyone would take a 1943 copper cent if they had one and do this. Why? Because one would be worth a lot of money by itself. No one is that stupid. Also if the worker did manage to get it in the striking chamber, stop the dies to retrieve it and pocket it, he'd also have to smuggle it out. I can tell you from working for the gov't in secure sites, especially those that handle cash or checks or other payment info, they really do have many rules in place to prevent theft.
3) Lastly then that coin would have to be placed in circulation to get that wear and damage from being spent and abused. Steel cents, because of their composition fare much worse than copper cents. This shows no evidence of this being a steel cent, and like I said above, no one would ever find a 1943 copper cent, get it into the mint and pass it through the minting process to flow into circulation.


Your pictures. Not good.
1)Showing that many at high magnification like that is bad. It does not accurately portray what you are trying to portray. Take non-oblique photos of the entire coin and have it in focus. Add a few close-ups if you have to for a detail or two, but not so highly magnified as you have. It will be sufficient to see things.
2) This is for future reference because this coin is not what you want it to be.

 

I think the odds of the OP knowing what that means are close to zero.

 

There is always google and hope.