1877 Indian Head Penny? Also, 1909S?

I know opinions were leaning towards a possible old cleaning on the 1877, I never thought of asking edited about conservation. Would it be worth it for some of them? Price vs. Profit? Actually the coins were stored untouched in a professional Museum quality Intercept Shield for decades. Estimated 5K down from 14K+ is definitely a shock, especially since the grades came back even higher! Apparently it's just because of the "details" NGC threw on them. Although it was already mentioned that several, including the 1877 was opined to possibly have had old cleanings, and everyone still thought they would still sell for 14K or more. Maybe edited was just preparing us for the worst.. I have no idea.
The only reason my father was forced to sell these in the first place was the need to pay for huge medical bills that are being turned over to collection agencies. (How compassionate they are!), and other debt, all which now stands at about 20K. We were hoping for the best when peopening were telling us this set could actually go for up to that much. I've heard elsewhere that NGC is a bit liberal with the details grades. Guess we are stuck now with whatever happens, and hope people go by the images over just taking NGC's opinions, I guess.

 

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First of all, I'm very sorry for the position he is in. It's a shame that trying to stay healthy/alive can bankrupt somebody.

I'm afraid conservation is not my area of expertise, but I know that if you could get some coins properly conserved, they would likely get a straight grade (no details) and sell for much more. I don't have the expertise to look at your coins and see which, if any, should be conserved. I'm not certain you can pull them now that you've listed them for auction. I would recommend calling edited, talking to your dealer, or reaching out to someone who knows this better, and seeing what they think is best.

 

I didn't know that.. even in the original post, I noted that they were listed on a friend's edited.. that how all of this started. If I posted in the other forum, can that then be linked from here? The point was to get opinions on them when better photos were available, and it was everyone here who directed us to send to edited.. They don't even want photos to be posted? If it doesn't link to a sale of it, I don't really see why that would be a problem? People were asking for the better quality images in this thread.. I'll check the other forum you mentioned and try to put some of this there, but then can I post here to tell the others who were involved in this thread that I posted the followup there? Or is that not allowed? Well this got awfully complicated

 

I looked at the images of the 1877 and the 1909. NGC is correct about the cleaning and the damage. I'm not going to look up every image but I'll bet that NGC got 99% of the grades right.
With a collection such as this, most of the value is in only a few of the important coins. The rest of the coins are not all that important. It's normal to see a large spread in opinions of value with raw coins. That's just the way it is. Once they are graded, the spread will narrow.

 

I have to agree with Idhair as I look at those 2 images.
The 09-S has a scratch on the reverse by the shield, the even I can see the environmental damage.