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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by CoinBlazer, Mar 30, 2019.

  1. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    So in the process of making a private sale, my buyer assumed that this coin is a knockoff/counterfeit NGC holder :banghead:
    The deal was not completed.
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  3. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    10/10 made in China
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If anyone can tell, it would be @Conder101 !

    Chris
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Ya just never know do ya?
     
  6. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    What tipped him off? Did he simply run the cert number and get skunked, or was it something with the coin or the holder/stickering?
     
  7. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    Let's see the whole slab front and back.
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    How knowledgeable is your buyer? Is it possible he was just so naive that he didn't recognize an older-generation holder?
     
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  9. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Exactly.
     
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  10. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    He never has seen an old holder
     
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  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Sounds like he was not the right buyer, then.
     
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  12. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

  13. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    So,
    1) You're saying your buyer's a ninny for not recognizing the old holder?
    Or
    2) You really think this is a counterfeit?

    I still don't know what the exact object of the post is. Wasn't someone pretty sure this was Chinese? Be interested to hear more about that conclusion. * and seems coin checks out in database, so...
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There's always another buyer out there @CoinBlazer, you just have to find them.
     
  15. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    Yes I was annoyed that he was unaware of a No line fatty thus assuming this was either a fake or a knockoff of NGC.
     
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  16. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    OK, good on you.
    Pupil has surpassed his teacher, time to aim higher with your buyer;)

    ** to his credit, at least he had your interests in mind. Not a bad human.
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    From what I see in the picture I would say it is genuine. It's something like 12 generations before the earliest fake NGC slab I've see.
     
  18. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    This situation reminds me of when people don't like to accept old small face notes out of plain ignorance automatically thinking they're fake because they don't remember them. Or perhaps they are too young to have used them when they were the latest design, as if currency didn't have a different design in previous years before they were around. It's a shame that critical thinking skills are in such short supply sometimes.
     
  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The thing looks legit to me. I was not aware that the Chinese or anyone else had faked the old NGC holders. All the fakes I have seen were copies of much newer slabs.
     
  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    *Sees holder. Proceeds to ignore coin.*

    Says a lot about the market, doesn’t it?
     
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  21. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    :woot:
     
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