GTG 1950 Franklin Half Dollar PCGS

The last one sold for $660, but there is a huge range.

 

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I could only find 1 at Heritage and it sold for almost $1300 and it didn't have near the eye appeal that the OP's coin does.

 

64 w/o full bell lines. Can't be FBL

 

Sure it can at PCGS.

 

Damn. Thanks for sticking your neck out there. You know much

 

Well I'm guessing I'm wrong again coz you don't have a 64 on your picks.

 

Yeah me too

 

That's like saying oh sorry I know you have a 96% average in the class, but because you got 1 D on a homework assignment the highest grade you can get is a D. Of course how good everything else is absolutely matters

 

Ok I’ve been on the road and haven’t been back to chime in. From the op I agreed with @Paddy54 and it’s not like either of haven’t been around awhile. I have about 35 years of collecting and dealing myself. From when I started as a kid to now. In the true view and the second pics I’d change my grade to high end 65 low end 66 with maybe a color and luster bump. And the difference between planchet roughness and flaws and wear/ dings is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to tell from a photo. I still disagree with the fbl but barely. I’d call it a slider on that designation.

 

As to @johnmilton please stick around. We need more informative educated posters here and while opinionated at times there’s none of the bias at the cu forums. I’m s member there and almost never check in or post. I like it here

 

I have a slight disagreement. Planchet marks do count if you are looking to get a grade of MS-65 or above. This is especially true for the coins that make MS-66 and above. Those coins need to have virtually perfect strikes with virtually no marks. There are entire issues of coins where NONE of the mintage would qualify You could be an angle that caught the coin the second it came off the dies, and it still would not be an MS-67 or better.

On the lower Mint State grades, those marks do become less important, and if you are looking at some at less than MS-62, they don't matter at all unless they are severe.

 

THIS x10000. The condescension around here sometimes because of a simple difference in opinion can be unbearable. Discussion...from pictures...about whether the luster was MS66 or 67 took place here.

I'll keep buying coins I love at prices I deem fair and I'll let you guys argue whether the strike is 78% full and the luster is a 66.2 and the eye appeal is exactly better than 94.2% of the population and it has 3 marks from contact, 8 from the planchet that weren't struck out and thus the grade is exactly 65.8426 anything else is incorrect.

The coin in the OP is awesome I would buy it in a heartbeat your brother did just fine IMO

 

The discussion on exact grades would not matter if the difference between a 66.2 and a 65.6 was not $1000. You can thank the US coin market for encouraging the spirited debate between technical grading and market grading.

 

In the old days, the grading services used to try to manipulate the coin market with their grades. When the market was strong, they loosened their standards because excited buyers would still buy the items. When they market slowed down, they tighten up again, perhaps in an effort to restrict the supply, or an effect to get collectors to pay more for coins that were high end for the grade assigned.

Now that the market for grading has reached the mature phase in the product life cycle, they have lowered all of their standards to encourage more crack-outs and reviews to generate for revenue. Some people think that the sticker company is combating this. From what I’ve seen they have often gone along with it.

 

If that's all you've got, you didn't exactly cut the middle of the plate with your fast one. The part you missed is, the market grading standards themselves are arbitrary and capricious.

 

I think we’ve made it abundantly clear that there are no longer objective standards.

 

The part you missed was that “technical standards” are arbitrary and subjective as well.

 

It’s the same logic you used of a grade cannot be better than it’s worst number according to you. I do agree that logic is absolutely ridiculous

Nope. Grades are there to give indications of the quality not to tell you what the worst aspect of it is no matter how great everything else is. Knowledgeable people know this.

You attempting to belittle me is actually reassurance. If you agreeded with me I’d be terrified that my skills had deminished and I was just saying whatever to try and be right.

I’d much rather be a “fanboy” than someone who acts like they know everything.

Hope coming in and belittling people made your ego feel better.