Featured The Slabbed (NGC/PCGS) AT-QT (Artificial/Questionable Toning) Thread

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lehigh96, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I agree with Mainebill about old cleaning and re-toned in album. For that reason, I'll go MA.

    FWIW, I don't care for the toning on the coin.
     
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  3. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I have one I would love to post next.
     
  4. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I have paid way over price guide for silver coins with rainbow toning... why is it a scam? I am talking about premium quality coins with toning, not AT/QC junk...
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    MA Pretty coin.
     
  6. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    QC - It's not the colors that are a problem but the perfect, tight concentric pattern IMO.
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Whenever you’re ready, feel free to post it. At that point we will call the current one and move on to your example.
     
  9. Buddy Love

    Buddy Love New Member

    This coin really needs to be seen in hand. About 12 years ago a group of coins with this toning look appeared, mostly Trade Dollars, Seated Dollars Halves and Quarters. A tell tale sign is that the blue and silver rim tone floats and is hazed when viewed from the side. I learned the hard way. I have an 1882 Trade Dollar with similar toning that was bagged as well, and found out who made them.
     
  10. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

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  12. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    MA

    A little dark for me.
     
  13. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    MA to me. Just barely. And I think it should be in an AU58 holder. Pretty though. I'd buy it at the right price.
     
  14. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I didnt feel this was MA. Maybe its partially because I feel it is way overgraded, and there is a blatant fingerprint on the reverse.

    @longshot it went for $88.50
     
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  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    NT/MA on the Morgan but pretty close to environmental damage.
     
  16. Buddy Love

    Buddy Love New Member

    NT Morgan. Near/at terminal toning.
     
  17. ron_c

    ron_c Well-Known Member

    NT on the Morgan.
     
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Quick note: remember that Morgans & Eagles are good to discuss but aren’t for points.

    As for the coin, I agree with the others that it is terminal/nearing environmental damage territory (at least based on the way it was photographed).
     
  19. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

  20. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Coin 1 - Clad Dime (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 2 - Franklin (pg. 1) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 3 - CBH (pg. 4) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 4 - Silv PR Ike (pg. 5) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 5 - Peace Dollar (pg. 7) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 6 - Ohio Silv PR 25c (pg. 8) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 11 (AT/QC)
    Coin 7 - 1964 MS 25c (pg. 9) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 8 - 1974 Clad PR 25c (pg. 11) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 9 - 85-O Morgan (pg. 12) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC) *no points*
    Coin 10 - 1890 IHC (pg. 13) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
    Coin 11 - 1893 Col. Commem (pg. 14) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 12 - Silver 3c (pg. 15) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 13 - SBA (pg. 16) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 14 - Large Cent (pg. 16) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 15 - Franklin (pg. 17) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 14 (AT/QC)
    Coin 16 - 1964 10c (pg. 18) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 10 (AT/QC)
    Coin 17 - 1966 1c SMS 67*(pg. 19) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 18 - Silve 25c (pg. 19) - 10(NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 19 - Peace Dollar (pg. 20) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 10 (AT/QC)
    Coin 20 - 1945 1c (pg. 21) - 14 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 21 - 1964 50c (pg. 22) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 22 - Peace $1 (pg. 23) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
    Coin 23 - Franklin (pg. 24) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 24 - Jefferson 5c (pg. 24) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 25 - Peace $1 (pg. 25) - 8 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 26 - 1947 10c (pg. 26) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 27 - 1940 Walker (pg. 27) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 28 - 1970-S Cent (pg. 28) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 29 - Roanoke Commem (pg. 29) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 30 - Peace Dollar (pg. 30) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 31 - Peace Dollar (pg. 30) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 32 - Long Island Commem (pg. 31) - 8 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 33 - New Rochelle Commem (pg. 32) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 34 - 1964 Kennedy (pg. 32) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 35 - Proof Franklin (pg. 32) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 36 - Wheat Cent (pg. 34) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 37 - Wheat Cent (pg. 35) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 38 - Franklin (pg. 36) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 12 (AT/QC)
    Coin 39 - Franklin (pg. 37) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 40 - Mercury (pg. 38) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 41 - Silver Washington 25c (pg. 39) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 42 - Clad Ike (pg. 39) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 43 - Silver Kennedy (pg. 39) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 44 - MPL Cent (pg. 40) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 45 - Peace Dollar (pg. 42) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 46 - 1996 Nickel (pg. 43) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 8 (AT/QC)
    Coin 47 - 1928 Peace Dollar (pg. 44) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 48 - 1955 Lincoln Cent (pg. 46) - 9 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 49 - 1963 Nickel (pg. 47) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 50 - 1955 Cent (pg. 47) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 51 - Walker (pg. 48) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 52 - Peace Dollar (pg. 48) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 53 - 2004 Lincoln 1c (pg. 49) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 9 (AT/QC)
    Coin 54 - Capped Bust Half (pg. 50) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 55 - Indian Head 1c (pg. 51) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 56 - 1956 Franklin (pg. 53) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 57 - 1877-CC 25c (pg. 53) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 58 - 1953 25c (pg. 55) - 9 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 59 - 1955 10c (pg. 55) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 60 - 1962 PR 1c (pg. 56) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 61 - 1955 50c (pg. 57) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 62 - 1837 50c (pg. 58) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
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    NT/MA: 38 total
    AT/QC: 24 total

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    ddddd - 15
    BlackberryPie - 3
    Lehigh96 - 2
    TheFinn - 1
    EyeAppealingCoins - 1
    Mainebill - 1
    Morgandude11 - 1
     
  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That was my thought too on the half dollar. I've now seen a few of these in straight graded holders pop up on eBay and they all look off. They all appear to be altered in some way as that concentric pattern-although reminiscent of PCI holders-is just too well done (and early half dollars aren't coins found as abundantly in PCI holders as the Silver Eagles, which are well known for PCI toning).
     
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