ERROR 1973 PENNY? PLEASE TAKE A LOOK!!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by sunday13, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    Why can't I just find a plain and straightforward 1969 s Or a 1955 DDO??? ;);)
    What Am I looking here guys? Aren't they too geometrical for just to be damage? Are they dropped letters? Is it something else? Or just well planned damage?I took a pic of the coin leaning on one side also, so you can see the "scratch like" surface! I am so frustrated with this coin I cannot even find the right words to explain myself! Thank you in advance!!!
     

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  3. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    Looks like damage to me. But, wait for @paddyman98 to give his opinion.
     
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  4. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    I will say this sunday13, the more damaged a coin is, the more the damage will look like something special , especially under high magnification.

    My best advice to you would be to Stop looking at damaged coins expecting or hoping to find something special.
    You will only find damage.
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    1973 - Known as circulation wear and tear..

    Also.. you are looking for a 1969 S Doubled Die variety.. Not just a plain old 1969 S.
    Here is what the DDO looks like -
    US0001-1969S-Dbl-Die-obv-Lincoln-Cent-obv-lg-5702f7e85f9b581408a9f60c.jpg
     
  6. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'd sure like to find one of those or the '55 DDO
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    So, let's say that you did find a '69S DDO that has been in normal circulation for 50 years. What do you think it would be worth in that condition?

    Chris
     
  8. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    Thank you paddyman98. I meant the DDO of 1969S; It seems that the way I was describing it while I was writing the sentence didn't make it obvious. thanks anyways!
     
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  9. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    I have no idea, probably not much, I would have to see it to appraise it, but it wouldn't matter because I would keep it anyway.

    I actually have coins older, that are in surprisingly good condition. I can't say where they've been or how much circulation they've seen, anything would only be a guess.
     
  10. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    Hookman it is obvious that you are trying to save me the time, the energy, and the dissapointment from not finding something special; and I do appreciate your advice. It's not about finding something special. It is about me learning.You advice me to stop looking at damaged coins but how can I tell that it is damaged unless I post it here and you fine people confirm that? I hope I am making myself clear. Thank you for your time!
     
  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Just wanted to make sure.. You would not believe the amount of times other new members have thought that any 1969 S is rare or a Doubled Die.. A lot of times!
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    There was a time many years ago where I also thought some damaged coins were Mint Errors. There was no CoinTalk, there was no internet, there was limited literature on the subject. It took me longer to learn and understand the differences on my own. So I agree with you on your statement.
     
  13. cpm9ball

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    I wasn't trying to put you on the spot or anything like that. It just seemed like a good time to make the point that so many of the new collectors we get here looking for errors seem to miss. That is, that "condition" is so important when evaluating coins. The "road kill" that we sometimes see aren't really worth much.

    Chris
     
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  14. cpm9ball

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    Yep! You're going to have to kiss a lot of toads:yuck: before you find a prince.:woot:

    Chris;)
     
  15. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    I completely understand. I have a few of those pennies right here with me! I wish they were doubled but they are not! Btw, given the opportunity, would you mind taking a look in one of those? And don't get me wrong! I just want to confirm that the "shadow" on the bowtie, vest and face is just from wear!
     

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  16. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    That's great Chris! You have noooo idea how patient I am! Cause I intent on finding a King!!!;);)
     
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  17. cpm9ball

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    FWIW, I've had better success finding errors & varieties in US Mint bags & rolls, and if you can learn to grade coins accurately, you can even make a nice profit on your purchases.

    Chris
     
  18. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    thank you Chris! :):)
     
  19. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Oh, I know that. Just making a point, and I agree with that point.
    I think the most important lesson we can learn, or have learned, is that condition trumps rarity, and pretty much everything else, 99.9 % of the time.
    The rare coin that is so rare that it is extremely valuable regardless of its, perhaps, very poor condition, is so rare that most of us, myself included, will never hold it in our hand, much less own it.

    The condition vs rarity/error aspect is exactly why I advise newbies to spend their efforts searching fair to good, or better, coins rather than beat up and damaged coins. As you, and others, have pointed out, who actually wants an error coin that may be so damaged that you can't tell the error from the damage, or so worn that it has little or no value?
    I know I won't buy one like that, but....If I find one on my own, I will keep it.
    However, I gave up searching damaged coins long ago, and I have never, and will probably never, use high magnification to look for errors.
    High mag just makes everything look like something.
    So really, we agree.

    ^^^^^Further evidence of our point about what we search.^^^^^
    I buy penny and nickel rolls at my part-time retail job and search them. Not as much as I used to, and I still reject the damaged coins.
     
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  20. sunday13

    sunday13 Active Member

    Just for the record, I observe , weight , look up on line and put under the magnifier EVERY single coin( pennies mostly) I get in my hands. DAMAGED or NOT. No matter how boring that sounds this is what a "hobby" feels like. Getting deep and learning. This is what "newbies" should do and not being discouraged not to; and maybe newbies ,who really take this seriously, due to this time wasting habit, have a chance to catch things and details that others don't even bother pay attention to. Good for the rest of us! Please look at the big picture!
    Once again, I need to admit that the majority here,has been more than helpful, and I have learned a lot only because of you. thanks!
     
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  21. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    I would hope that I, also, am being helpful and not being a hindrance, for that is certainly not my intent.
    Good luck with your hunts.
    Please don't hesitate to post anything you find or ask any questions you may have.
     
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