Morgan Dollar Fake/Genuine

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by VlkCherokee, Feb 14, 2019.

  1. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

    Hi guys,

    I am quite all new to this - I am seeking to buy a genuine Morgan Dollar as a gift and I am looking for a specific date - 1899. Would you have some general recommendations on how to avoid fake coins and what to look out for please?

    I found this coin here for example - can you tell from the provided photos, if it is genuine or not?

    https://www.etsy.com/listing/676999625/1899-s-morgan-silver-dollar-coin

    Thanks in advance for any tips!

    Vlk
     
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  3. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

  4. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Don’t buy the Etsy coin, it has various problems. I’d get a certified and problem-free example just like LuxUnit suggested...
     
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  5. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Skip the Etsy coin. If you have s local coin shop in your area go there.

    Welcome to CT.
     
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  7. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    ANACS, PCGS, and NGC are very reputable companies. Its worth it to spend a little extra to have one certified. Just make sure the label doesnt say cleaned or scratched or something along that line. Feel free to message me if you have more questions :)
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2019
  8. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

    Thank you very much, I really appreciate the insight! I really like the coin you’ve linked, so I might as well go for it! :) Cheers!
     
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  9. roman99

    roman99 Well-Known Member

    Just don’t buy from etsy period. 99% of listings are overpriced/shady. You’d honestly have more luck on ebay, which itself is abundant with scams and counterfeits. Try Vcoins.
     
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  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    If you're looking for an 1899-dated Morgan dollar, buy an uncirculated 1899-O, as it is a common date. 1899 and 1899-S are better dates that will cost you more.
     
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  11. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

  12. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I have to give that seller a little credit. It looks genuine and the seller correctly called it Fine details due to the rim damage.
     
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  13. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

    Thank you guys! I am not much into uncirculated ones, I like the patina and story behind the used ones, so I think I will go for this one posted by LuxUnit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223375010100?ul_noapp=true It's an S one and is even cheaper than the uncirculated one.
     
  14. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Why would you buy a VG8? I’d suggest to buy a higher grade coin, somewhere in the VF range.

    E.g. on eBay you could search with below string:
    1899 O morgan vf (anacs,icg,pcgs,ngc) (30,35) -details
     
  15. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

  16. micbraun

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  17. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

    Which advice? :) I've said that I am looking for a worn looking coin, I am not aiming to get a shining uncirculated one. And I am not a collector, so I am aiming to get just a nice looking and genuine morgan dollar coin, it doesn't have to be in rare condition or fancy version of it.

    I just noticed the filter you've posted for eBay, thanks for that!
     
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  18. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    Micbraun is referring to this coin: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...h=item33f6d3c0fa:g:8A0AAOSwgbdcSilp:rk:3:pf:0

    It is cleaned which is a bad thing for a coin collector. Give those searches a try and if you find something post it here, most people are willing to give advice if you have questions :) happy hunting
     
  19. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Understood. I would not buy certified coins with a “details” grade. You want to buy a slabbed coin to be sure it’s authentic and it doesn’t have any major issues. I suggested to search for VF 30/35 coins, as those usually have good eye-appeal but aren’t too expensive either. A nice looking VF30/35 coin is usually an excellent choice.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2019
  20. VlkCherokee

    VlkCherokee New Member

    Thank you very much for your help guys, I really appreciate it! May I ask why is the cleaned coin a bad thing? I looses it’s original patina? If that would be the case, I don’t mind, I really aim for genuinity and look.

    However, I gave the VF 30/35 a look and haven’t found any coin that I would like and be within my price range. There were couple of nice ones but without a certificate. I am looking for the S more than the O, which might narrow my options as well. However, I found this coin which I like and is not cleaned, it is certified and has VG 10 rating. It’s far from VF 30/35, I know, but it works for me visually - there are enough details and I like the wear. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1899-S-1-A...448880&hash=item5463f39b77:g:xJcAAOSw6-tbvSIZ
     
  21. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    If you are not a collector - what is your specific purpose for the coin (jewelry piece or something)? You are seeking advice from a group of people with a collector's mindset. If your purpose for the coin is something different - providing that specific information would be helpful so we can change our perspective and guide you in the best direction.
     
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