I tried handling this peacefully . . . Now what do I do?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ToughCOINS, Jun 16, 2018.

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  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I realize you're not directing your comment at this transaction in particular, but I'll point out that the seller in this case had a feedback rating of 99.9% from over 4000 unique buyers, however, and this is important . . . there's a fairly new indicator for everyone to keep an eye on . . .

    Below and to the right of the "Feedback Left For Others" tab is an indication of the number of times feedback has been revised. I only noticed this recently, and failed to take it into account when bidding on this coin. This seller had feedback revised 6 times . . . which would have given me pause.
     
    ToughCOINS, Jun 18, 2018
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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Does that mean eBay revised or removed negs, or does that mean the seller revised his own fb left for others?
     
    C-B-D, Jun 18, 2018
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  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    When you say he's buying the same coins, do you mean seated dimes, or one specific date?
     
    C-B-D, Jun 18, 2018
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  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That buyers have for the seller

    I wouldn't blink an eye at 6 over 4k feedbacks, you run into bad buyers at about that rate or higher for most people
     
    baseball21, Jun 18, 2018
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  6. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    Yes definitely not directed at this situation but to the response of this situation (or any relating to a negative ebay experience) that "ebay is no longer a good place to buy coins".

    Interesting about the revised feedback thing thanks for sharing had no idea.
     
    IBetASilverDollar, Jun 18, 2018
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  7. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Are cherry picking unattributed or miss-attributed coins. Maybe the buyer who is stalking you has caught on.
     
    justafarmer, Jun 18, 2018
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I don't know for sure, but I believe it means the seller successfully got eBay and the buyer to revise feedback left for him / her.
     
    ToughCOINS, Jun 18, 2018
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  9. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Not eBay the buyer, click the ? it tells you. If eBay does it there is no history
     
    baseball21, Jun 18, 2018
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  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'll keep that to myself . . . at least for now.
     
    ToughCOINS, Jun 18, 2018
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  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Give us Barabbas.........
     
    green18, Jun 18, 2018
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  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    @ToughCOINS , I just went and looked at my eBay feedback. It shows I have 1 revised feedback. I remember that one... where an angry buyer left a negative when he lost a case against me. eBay removed it. Must have been close to a year ago. But now I'm wondering: When a case is decided in your favor, you get a message from eBay saying that any negative or neutral left by the other party is subject to removal. So I wonder if that number (revised feedbacks) includes when eBay reverses the negative or neutral on their own? Dunno. Just thinking that maybe the revised feedback number isn't the seller calling up and complaining and having it removed each time. Could also be eBay enforcing their own rules.
     
    C-B-D, Jun 19, 2018
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  13. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    It helps to know that, thanks for the information.

    - Mike
     
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    ToughCOINS, Jun 19, 2018
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  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    New incident with the same interfering eBay member . . .

    Between the origination of this thread and today there have been several other instances where this eBay member crossed my path, but none quite so aggravating as what took place last night.

    I found a coin I wanted in auction format with the Make an Offer option. I made an offer, the seller accepted, I paid via PayPal, and the listing closed . . . this was in the afternoon.

    Before going to bed I checked for the tracking number, and it wasn't uploaded, so I messaged the seller, asking that it be uploaded when shipped.

    Arising the next morning, I found no tracking number, and had a nagging sense that the same kind of interference I've experienced in the past had taken place again.

    I searched sold items, and sure enough, the coin I'd bought had sold twice. First to me in the afternoon, and then again in the wee morning hours the next day.

    Looking at the masked buyer's eBay ID, it was exactly the same buyer I've complained about above. Evidently, he checks items sold and tries to intercept delivery by contacting sellers with higher offers on targeted coins.

    Fed up, I contacted the seller, informed him that I'd already made hard copies and pdf files of the coin photos, and expected that coin to show up in my mail. He promptly canceled the second sale to the "interfering one", and shipped the coin out to me.

    I've since spent considerable time on the phone with eBay outlining my history with this single interfering member, and finally got them to state that they will address the matter. Time will tell whether this was just lip service, or an assurance in earnest.

    I'll be sure to let folks here know if this interference persists . . . that would mean the eBay assurance was mere lip service, and validates the suspicions of so many that eBay cares only about themselves, and not about their customers.
     
    ToughCOINS, Feb 8, 2019
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  15. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    I may have offered this opinion before, but once the sale has closed the coin is your property, period. If it is given to someone else by the seller, who does not own that coin, that should be fraud or theft by the seller. And that should be a law enforcement matter as well.
     
    RonSanderson, Feb 8, 2019
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  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Who is the competing and offending buyer?
     
    C-B-D, Feb 8, 2019
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  17. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Yeah who is this buyer? If he also sells, I want to make sure I never buy from them.
     
    Evan8, Feb 8, 2019
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  18. serafino

    serafino Well-Known Member

    I don't know how active you are on Ebay, but it don't work like that in reality.
     
    serafino, Feb 8, 2019
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  19. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    eBay customer service is involved now and they said they’d take action. So why would Mike disclose the username now?

    I believe the “rogue buyer” tries to buy coins which are sold to experienced dealers, expecting to be able to make a decent profit with them.
     
    micbraun, Feb 8, 2019
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  20. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    @ToughCOINS , I just read this entire thread. I'm sorry to see this happened again to you. IMO, you've been trying to handle this like a gentlemen, but this buyer has forced you to do things you normally would not do.

    I'm glad you were able to enforce your latest coin purchase. In addition, I hope eBay does something about this interfering buyer.

    Please let us know how it works out.
     
    JPeace$, Feb 8, 2019
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  21. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'll PM the username to those who request it, but I won't share it publicly.
     
    ToughCOINS, Feb 8, 2019
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