Need help with grade

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  1. adam5000

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  3. paddyman98

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    Fake coins do not get a grade... Novelty Item
     
  4. adam5000

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    This is not a "Fake" coin, its a genuine 1864 Civil War Token
     
  5. paddyman98

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  6. adam5000

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    I'll post another one....Check this bad mama jama out...Graded by NGC Image4149.jpg Image4150.jpg Image4151.jpg Image4152.jpg
     
  7. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    See the difference in the quality of the 2? How the first one is just a cheap imitation of a real coin and the second is not trying to look like legal tender?
     
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  8. paddyman98

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  9. paddyman98

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    So what you are saying is that the first token is not a genuine civil war token? o_O
     
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  11. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Looks to be a modern copy of a civil war token.
     
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  12. Razz

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    Paddy I am in no way an expert on tokens much less civil war tokens, but yes when you think about it for about 1 second after looking at the thing it does not make sense that it could possibly be genuine.;)
     
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  16. Santinidollar

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    The first one is an imitation.
     
  17. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    It is a modern replica. It's too perfect as in computer aided. The one you linked here is real. These tokens were modeled by artist, by hand, the same as circulating coins of the same period. They aren't perfect and have an artist touch which the coin in the original post does not have.
     
  18. ldhair

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    The first one is a fake. Everything about it is wrong.
     
  19. adam5000

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    I think it may be fake the more i look at it. I cant find this variety anywhere on the net. And its weight is 4.1 grams, it seems too heavy. I think this is the first fake coin i ever bought. At least i found a site that gives a list of all the 1863 and 1864 war tokens ever made. https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/civil-war-tokens-1863-1864/6274
     
  20. paddyman98

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    So then I was correct.. When I first looked at your coin it looked off.
     
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