NGC Proof-Like Designation: Would this 1977-D Ike Dollar Have a Chance?

I would very much appreciate your opinions on this '77-D Eisenhower Dollar, and whether or not it would have a chance at getting a PL designation from NGC. This coin is blindingly reflective like an actual proof Ike, though there is no cameo contrast. It has a liquid metal appearance like nickels from the special mint sets of '65-'67. I have taken multiple shots at different angles for thorough review. Thanks.



The green color in these shots were from my computer screen:









"mirror" shots:

 

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No, I don’t think it would be designated “prooflike.” It is a nice, high-grade very reflective Ike. The PL designation is not that common, and I say no. It would grade high, though.

 

I really think that cameo contrast is very important to a PL designation

 

I was just reading about 'errors' in proof coins.

Your coin is awfully mirror-like. Could it be something like this? https://www.numismaticnews.net/buzz/ngc-shows-off-new-reverse-proof-error-half-dollar

 

No. Reverse proofs are a completely different minting technique. No, the Ike is just a gem grade standard strike, that has some nice center reflectivity.

 

No. Cameo contrast has absolutely nothing to do with the PL designation. PL is based solely on the depth of reflectivity of the fields. The fact that some DMPL Morgans coincidentally also have a nice cameo effect is irrelevant - the designation is based on the mirrored fields.

This Ike has one of the best chances of any Ike I've seen, but I honestly don't know. PL Ikes are very rare, because the fields are so wide open. The entire field has to be reflective, and often times areas are reflective and parts aren't. For example, I'm seeing areas on the reverse of your coin that make me think this one may not get it - but overall the coin is quite convincing.

I realize that doesn't answer your question at all, but if the coin were mine I would send it in.

 

Thanks. I have only JUST begun to read on the subject of cameo contrasts and proofs because of what Paddyman showed in another thread. I'll keep studying. Thank you, also @Morgandude11

 

Understood...

 

Beat me to it. Reflectivity and cameo often go hand in hand, however, cameo is not required for the designation. I even have slabbed coins with the DPL (deep prooflike) designation that have absolutely no cameo.

 

I think this Ike has a great shot at it. But you never know.

Here's my PL quarter to help show that cameo doesn't matter. This coin is like a piece of chrome

 

Evan8: Did that quarter come from a mint set? Some of mine that I pulled from mint sets look similar.

 

I bought it already slabbed. I wouldnt be surprised though if it did come from a mint set.

 

Based on the first five images, I would say no. Based on the last two, I would say a PL or star isn't out of the question, and I would throw in a modern submission or economy submission if you have one going in. If it does PL, then the coin is worth a handsome premium.

 

Thanks for all the replies. The two images with the near-black background were taken with the coin under the harsh direct light of 5 Jansjo lamps. I couldn’t even see the coin. It was just a bright white circle with no detail until I tapped to focus. The iPhone then adjusted accordingly. I did this to show the surfaces without luster/reflectivity, or as “flat” as possible.

So, is it the case that reviewing a coin for PL reflectivity isn’t something you can request? You just have to hope that it is strong enough that they notice it while it’s being graded, correct?

 

Yes, that is correct. However, if they don't catch it the first time you can send it back for "Designation Review," and request that they specifically look for the PL. I've had a few upgrade this way.

 

Thank you, @physics-fan3.14. That’s good to know.

 

Very nice Ike! I sure hope you get PL. It certainly has some merit based on the pictures you've posted. Good luck with it.

 

If you do submit it, and you do get the PL.... let me know.

If you don't want to submit it.... let me know.

 

I’ll let you know either way. Thanks.