Authentic Toning or Not?

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  1. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    Is this toning natural or is it artificial? Thanks!

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  3. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Natural. I've seen many an early wheat like that.
     
  5. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Is it your coin? If so, is there luster? Can’t tell from the photo but I find Lincoln Cents particularly hard to photograph.
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Natural pretty coin
     
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  7. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Copper remains a mystery to me. If it’s natural why are the colors all splotchy and random in places? Is it the alloy reacting differently to the environment? Thanks.
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I don't see splotchy. I see a toned copper cent toning from the outside rim to the inside. It will not tone evenly.
     
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  9. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    I just looked up toned Lincoln registry sets... indeed looks par for the course. Some of those look way crazier than this one. Always grateful to learn something new. Thanks!
     
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  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Copper isn't a strong suit for me either...but I've seen coins toned as such and it's natural.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You're welcome.
     
  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Looks natural to me
     
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  14. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    It isn't a black and white issue and the whole AT/NT is really a spectrum. I would put this right in the middle of the spectrum near the QC/MA line as I consider it somewhat questionable, but close enough that I could see it straight grading and being deemed MA.
     
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  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Agreed. If it was submitted multiple time, I'd expect this one to straight grade (be deemed MA) more times than not, but it is close enough (maybe 60/40 MA vs QC).
     
  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Looks good to me—NT, and a very attractive coin.
     
  17. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Cleaned and retoned naturally.
     
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  18. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    No doubt. I have copper cents that I have owned since my youth. One still looks mint struck yesterday. Others are various shades of red to brown. All stored the same..... I ran two copper water lines under my house side by side years ago. One is mostly green. The other isn’t. And I ran them the same day! Copper is a mystery!
     
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  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The red center concerns me more than the rainbow toned periphery. It looks like MA album toning but maybe the coin was dipped before being placed in the album.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just curious, 2 questions. One - I'm not sure what your response indicates. Yes or no, do you find the coin MA ? And two - if you knew for a fact that it was dipped and then placed in the album - would that change your opinion ?
     
  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The coin is MA, I was just pointing out that the bright red center is more of a concern for me than peripheral toning, it makes the coin look strange. And neither would change my opinion of the market acceptability of the toning. Dipping is not considered harsh cleaning and coin albums are an acceptable storage method as long as they are stored in a properly controlled temperature. You can't judge the intent of the previous owner, therefore intent can't be used when determining the market acceptability of the toning.
     
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