1943 s War Nickel - Is this a planchet error?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by TylerH, Jan 28, 2019.

  1. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    Hi All

    Picked this up as BU, which it is (Its every bit as nice as my PCGS MS65) but when I looked closer I noticed a spot in Jefferson's shoulder, to the rim, that is copper, not silver color - There is ZERO wear on this coin so I dont see how it could have been hit hard enough to cause PMD - TONS of luster on this as well. Would love thoughts

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  3. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    Partially clipped planchet? Or Maybe a lamination issue. Seems to be a bit of the Blakesley effect. May need a pic of the coin straight on, laying flat on something instead of your fingers. See what others say. @paddyman98
     
  4. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    I tried to get a flat pic but my lighting isn’t working :) thanks for your thoughts - I’ll have to google Blakesly effect.
     
  5. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    What's that on the reverse 2nd column from the right.
     
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  6. USCoinCollector42

    USCoinCollector42 Well-Known Member

    I agree with SlipperySocks. It would be abnormal for a coin of such condition to have such a giant dent in it.

    A picture of the coin on a flat surface could help determine exactly what the dent is.

    The 'Blakesley Effect' is a phenomenon on clipped planchet error coins where the rim directly across from the 'clip' is smoothed over / weakly struck.

    Here are some photos I found on the internet where the Blakesley Effect is easily observed (they do not belong to me).

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    If your coin has the Blakesley Effect, it is fair to assume that the dent is actually a small clip in the planchet (mint error).
     
  7. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    Good eye. Maybe a die crack? It’s soooo small even under my good sculpting magnifier I can’t tell exactly.
     
  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Nice coin, I'm sure the reason it is in such nice condition is due to the defect it has. I think your coin was struck on a defective planchet, maybe from the end of the metal strip that blanks are cut from. Have you weighed your coin to see if it has the correct weigh?
     
  9. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    To be honest I think the condition and error are a fluke - I know eBay stories are a dime a dozen but this one was apparently from a roll of BU 1943 nickels that the seller was asking 10$ each from. The main image was a “stock” image of one of the coins, hence my surprise when it came and had the defect :) I do t have a scale but will pick one up
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Cracked planchet? Some kind of lamination (delamination) on his jacket?
    I am wondering if this coin is a better keeper than one without the defect.
    Like the guy thought he was sending you a bad coin, and it turns out
    this one is worth more.
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2019
  11. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    If it is a legitimate error I definitely think it’s more interesting than a non error one, not sure if it is a value add but it makes me like it a bit more :)
     
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  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I am personally leaning towards damage and would like some clearer photos to get a better idea. Such a small clip would not create a Blakesley effect.
     
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  13. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    I don’t think it’s PMD as the coin is quite perfect otherwise and I think an impact that would cause a crack and break off lamination would also have traces somewhere else on the coins obverse or reverse. I’m not an expert though but I imagine the force it takes to not bend, but crack a coin is immense.
     
  14. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    The flat pics are coming out awful so here are 2 of the area in question:
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    That looks like a struck-in rim burr.
     
  16. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    Im learning a ton of new terminology today - Never heard of this!
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Google it. It might be worth getting it attributed, too, as that's a handsome coin.
     
  18. TylerH

    TylerH Well-Known Member

    I may - thank you! Does this error add much value? I dont know a ton about errors but it seems like the value add is variable
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's an unusual error. I can't tell you, either way, how the market would take it. My hunch is, though, were it attributed, it would get more respect in the market. That just makes horse sense. :)
     
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