Featured The Slabbed (NGC/PCGS) AT-QT (Artificial/Questionable Toning) Thread

I think the Peace is AT, based on the toning pattern, and also it just looks "heat treated" to me.

 

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Summary of results:
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Coin 1 - Clad Dime (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
Coin 2 - Franklin (pg. 1) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
Coin 3 - CBH (pg. 4) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 4 - Silv PR Ike (pg. 5) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
Coin 5 - Peace Dollar (pg. 7) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
Coin 6 - Ohio Silv PR 25c (pg. 8) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 11 (AT/QC)
Coin 7 - 1964 MS 25c (pg. 9) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 8 - 1974 Clad PR 25c (pg. 11) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
Coin 9 - 85-O Morgan (pg. 12) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC) *no points*
Coin 10 - 1890 IHC (pg. 13) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
Coin 11 - 1893 Col. Commem (pg. 14) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
Coin 12 - Silver 3c (pg. 15) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 13 - SBA (pg. 16) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
Coin 14 - Large Cent (pg. 16) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 15 - Franklin (pg. 17) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 14 (AT/QC)
Coin 16 - 1964 10c (pg. 18) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 10 (AT/QC)
Coin 17 - 1966 1c SMS 67*(pg. 19) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 18 - Silve 25c (pg. 19) - 10(NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 19 - Peace Dollar (pg. 20) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 10 (AT/QC)
Coin 20 - 1945 1c (pg. 21) - 14 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 21 - 1964 50c (pg. 22) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
Coin 22 - Peace $1 (pg. 23) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
Coin 23 - Franklin (pg. 24) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
Coin 24 - Jefferson 5c (pg. 24) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
Coin 25 - Peace $1 (pg. 25) - 8 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
Coin 26 - 1947 10c (pg. 26) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
Coin 27 - 1940 Walker (pg. 27) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
Coin 28 - 1970-S Cent (pg. 28) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 29 - Roanoke Commem (pg. 29) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
Coin 30 - Peace Dollar (pg. 30) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
Coin 31 - Peace Dollar (pg. 30) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
Coin 32 - Long Island Commem (pg. 31) - 8 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 33 - New Rochelle Commem (pg. 32) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 34 - 1964 Kennedy (pg. 32) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
Coin 35 - Proof Franklin (pg. 32) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
Coin 36 - Wheat Cent (pg. 34) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
Coin 37 - Wheat Cent (pg. 35) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 38 - Franklin (pg. 36) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 12 (AT/QC)
Coin 39 - Franklin (pg. 37) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
Coin 40 - Mercury (pg. 38) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
Coin 41 - Silver Washington 25c (pg. 39) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 42 - Clad Ike (pg. 39) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 43 - Silver Kennedy (pg. 39) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
Coin 44 - MPL Cent (pg. 40) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
Coin 45 - Peace Dollar (pg. 42) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
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NT/MA: 28 total
AT/QC: 17 total

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Points:

ddddd - 12
Lehigh96 - 2
TheFinn - 1
BlackberryPie - 1
EyeAppealingCoins - 1

 

I would say those spots by themselves wouldn't make me question the toning (I'd agree with your assessment of improper storage). However, the obverse combined with the reverse is just too reminiscent of the coins that I've seen gassed by edynamicmarketing (if you search there should be some before and after pics of those).

This one is much worse, but here is a sample of his "work"

 

Floor is open again for anyone who has a coin to post.

 

I would have bypassed this Peace Dollar anyway. I don't collect Peace Dollars and, to me, it has non desirable toning, NT or AT.

 

I'm surprised it was so close.

 

I've been trying to understand this thread and I'm so confused. What was the consensus? Does the person that posted actually know if I'd AT or NT? And is the result what the poster thinks or what coin grading says?

NVM I re-read the rules. I get it now I don't have any that might have slipped past graders.

 

Lehigh wants people to post coins in straight graded holders that they believed are AT.

 

Thank you for clarifying I will lurk in the shadows ha

 

I'm glad that you could understand my original post despite the egregious typo!

 

MA - The color progressions are correct and under the patina - cool coin IMO!

The second picture is the probably what you'd see in hand. Have to angle the light/coin to get that first picture. ...it's all about the light. Shots like that can make a great coin look like hell. Obviously taken to capture the color underneath. A good supplemental picture but the second pic is the real one.

 

There is no such thing as AT/NT, a coin is either MA or not.

 

Next up is a nickel. Now note that it's a 1996 and not from the 50s-70s era (that is why I'm posting it here for opinions).

 

I respect Segos, but he is wrong on this IMHO. Blue and purple do not mix like that on nickel coinage. I vote AT.

 

Even with the over saturation, I would have to say AT/QC.

 

Not MA, but I would buy it if cheap enough. I say AT

 

It would be AT no matter what era that coin is from.

 

Not MA

 

I think it is worth mentioning that this coin resides in a PCGS Gen8 holder that was used 2000-2002 IIRC. So this coin was only about 5 years old when it was slabbed. There is no natural process that can tone a coin that deeply in just 5 years.

 

Questionable for sure