FEL TEMO REPARATIO "hut"

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    It has been a long time since CT has had a thread on FEL TEMP REPARATIO "hut" types. This one came today:

    ConstansFTRhutSMKB1910.jpg
    21 mm.
    SMKB for Cyzicus
    Solider, with spear reversed, leading smaller figure (barbarian?) from hut with a tree behind and above it.
    RIC VIII Cyzicus 72 "348-350"
    Sear V 18699.
    Failmezger 410. Roman Bronze Coins: From Paganism to Christianity, 294-364 A.D. The book (with excellent illustrations by @dougsmit ) pictures 17 examples from 13 different mints.

    Most of the mints have distinguishable trees. This tree has more leaves than most and looks somewhat like Failmezger's from Nicomedia and Antioch. It is not much like his (worn) Cyzicus example which three branches with not more than one leaf each.

    Our member @Gavin Richardson has written an article on this "hut" type and its interpretation in light of Vergil.

    Show us your FTR huts. Let's see if mints can be identified by their trees.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Constans 2.jpg
    CONSTANS
    AE2
    OBVERSE: D N CONSTANS P F AVG - Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust left, holding globe
    REVERSE: FEL TEMP REPARATIO, soldier dragging young barbarian from hut beneath tree of one branch with millet-like head with a multi-leaved stalk on each side, SMNA in ex.
    Struck at Nicomedia 348-351 AD
    3.8g, 20.5mm
    Nicomedia RIC VIII 72

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    CONSTANS
    AE2
    OBVERSE: D N CONSTA-NS P F AVG, Pearl-diademed, draped, cuirassed bust left, globe in right hand
    REVERSE: FEL TEMP REPA-RATIO,
    Helmeted soldier, spear in left hand, advancing right, head left; with his right hand he leads a small bare-headed figure from a hut beneath a tree. The spear points downwards, between the soldier's legs. ANGamma in ex
    Struck at Antioch 348-350 AD
    3.5g, 21mm
    RIC VIII 126
     
  4. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    HUT COMPOSITE.png

    I love these coins, obviously. The photo shows my mint set; I need to upgrade my Arles and Nicomedia.

    Your Cyzicus tree is interesting; all those leaves look more like Antioch. Maybe an Antiochene die engraver decided to take a Turkish vacation.

    I'm more interested in what the smaller figure is holding. That's been a mystery for collectors of this coin; some say the figure is just holding his hand in front of his face. I have argued that he's holding a pedum, or hunting stick, that was an attribute of Phrygian shepherds and aligns him with Ascanius, and more generically marks him as a rustic figure.

    Alas, the only person I think I've convinced with my reading is me. If anyone is having trouble sleeping, my article can be downloaded at Victor's site: http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/articles/Richardson_Barbarian_Hut.pdf
     
  5. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    nice one V... i have one of these :D

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    Constantius II AE2 Follis. Aquileia mint. 337-361 AD

    CONSTANT-IVS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust
    left, holding globe
    FEL TEMP REPAR-ATIO, soldier holding spear, point upwards,
    leading small figure from a hut beneath a tree with pod-like leaves.
    Mintmark AQS dot. rated common
    22 mm, 3.8 g
    RIC VIII 102, S
     
  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice


    here's most of my huts:

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  7. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Gavin Richardson, Wow :jawdrop:! Impressive display. It looks like you & randygeki have "cornered the market" on this coin type :D.
     
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  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The OP coin is atypical of the trees of Cyzicus. The branches vary in number but are normally pointed in shape. Here are my Cyzicus examples with varying numbers and sizes of pointed leaves.

    Are you sure you want more huts by mint? I have a FEW.

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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Trier has two tree styles. Clusters of three branches each with round leaves or single branches with round leaves.

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  10. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Alexandria typically has two tree types though with some variety. The more usual type is multiple single branches with single oval or round leaves on the end or more unusually branches with clusters.

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    No leaves at all?
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  11. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Some great coins here guys. I still don't have one of this type. I guess I'm really missing out.
     
  12. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    PM me your address and I'll send you this one from my discard pile, gratis. Not a beauty, but a recognizable example.

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  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Antioch is typically quite leafy with pointy leaves

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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    PM sent! Thanks Gavin. That would be really cool.
     
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  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Aquileia typically has three branches, each with a single, large, poiny leaf.

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  16. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Arles typically have hree branches with a large pointy leaf, clusters of small leaves or single round leaves

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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I only have a couple...

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    RI Centeniolis Rome 348-350 CE FEL TEMP REPA-RATIO soldier advancing right, spear downward captive tree R star T RIC VIII 140


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    RI Constans 337-350 Æ Follis 22mm 3.9g Heraclea AD348-351 holding globe - FEL TEMP REPARATIO soldier spear leads figurefrom hut
     
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  18. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    That Heraclea seems to have a single branch with a tight cluster of leaves.

    This one is more tree-like
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    and this one has three branches with tight clusters of leaves.
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  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Rome seems to have three of perhaps four (one small vertical and three larger horizontal) each with small clusters of leaves

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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thanks Martin. I, admittedly, know little of this series... your and @randygeki ’s past postings got me interested in having a couple for my collection.


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    I have not seen what I felt was a single leaf, or as you call a “tight cluster”. Does that mean anything? Is it unusual? Or just a variation? Lazy die cutter. I just did not know if there was any significance. I thought it was cool.
     
  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Looking through Bill Welch's collection it would appear that a single branch is not uncommon for Heraclea. That's something I wasn't aware of until now. The leaves on yours seem particularly tightly clustered.
     
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