All: Many of us have bashed and complained about many of the TPGs and slabbers. So let's reverse the conversation and talk about what the "PERFECT" TPG firm would be like!! What is everyone thoughts on services, policies, grading standards/procedures would be. Later,
it should have excellent customer service it should have the best graders it should be free to submit coins that is what i want for a tpg. monkeyman
2. Published reports of all coins and grades on amonthly to quartly basis. Owners names of course would not accompany the report for privacy issues. This would let collectors see how a certain company tends to grade. 3. Graders would be reviewed with in the company for accuracy by other graders from with in the same agency. This could lead to double standards, but is better then what we have now. Or if the companies where to get along and want to perform well they could have there employees reviewed at another company. Doubt any of these would actually happen..would cut down on subject grading don;t you think? Regards, S
Toning is EYE APPEAL which is a part of grading. Naturally you would want a coin with better eye appeal. So that being said Should every BLAST WHITE DIPPED OUT coin be graded higher that a toner?
Well lets see..... NGC NGC If you are saying they should do all of the work, grade, slab, etc the coins for free....that is not going to happen, nor should it....how would you like to work for free? If you are saying you shouldn't have to join a members club to send coins... I didn't....and with NGC you don't have too! If you have an Ebay user ID or ANA number you can send them to NGC with no extra charge. Other wise.....ANACS doesn't charge a membership fee either. Speedy
An Honest Friend who also collects. No Charge, Honest Opinion, and Someone who'll Listen if you don't agree... Take Care Ben
Every coin submitted should be authenticated, graded and slabbed; including harshly cleaned, holed, bent and damaged coins which should include a description of the condition on the slab.
Done deal. ANACS does it. So does NGC, if you submit via NCS (brother company). Any coins which are problem coins wind up in NCS holders with authentication, description of details grade (optional), and description of problem. Non-problem coins are re-routed to NGC.
no such things as perfect women, men, cars, storms or TPG's! no matter what you do, in ANY situation - you can NEVER please everyone! as soon as the first rule is created - someone out there will not like it. but - perfection is always a measure worth striving for!
Right on ! As for amateur grading... recently on CT, there was a Type II gold $1 on a "you grade it" thread. Opinions varied from VF20 to MS62.
No matter how they try, there will never be a perfect TPG. They can always try to improve, (which I see them doing even now with a few things). And consistency you got to be very weary of, not always a positive trait. Look at SGS, safe bet I guess you can say that they are probably the most consistent you can get. Phoenix
well speedy, i guess you are right, when i said that you should be able to submit coins for free, i guess i was kind of dreaming. Maybe just have reasonable prices instead. Also, could you please direct me to the link where you submit coins to ngc using an ebay user id. monkeyman
I don't think the prices are all that bad. Getting a good opinion (most of the time) on the grade of a coin, along with authentication on key dates. To top it all off you get a guarentee with the coin with PCGS and NGC, along with a nice holder that protects your coins. Not trying to come across rude or anything monkeyman, please don't take me as that, but that is just my opinion. And you are more than entitled to yours too. :thumb: Just trying to show another side to it too. Phoenix
i understand, but personally, i think that just posting a good picture of the coin on here (cointalk) letting people give their opinions for free, and buying a nice airtight case or coinworld slab for your coin that will protect it , is just as good but cheaper than paying 20 plus dollars to have the same thing done by someone else. Just my opinion. monkeyman
All services should be performed at a highly accurate level, which, would just about make consistency an accompanying and necessary trait. Along with this, standards should not change, and ideally, identical standards would be shared by all. This should result in any resubmission producing the same result time after time. Preferential treatment would not exist. The employees should be able to read, spell and follow procedures in order to know how to utilize identification systems, numbering systems, be aware of updates and corrections, copy names correctly, etc., and then transfer all of that information correctly to the label. Competent label makers need to be employed, and a proof reader/checker would be a good idea too. This type of thing could be held to virtually a zero error rate if they wanted to. My work environment deals heavily with information exchange and high rate product production. Many of our clients demand an overall error/defect rate of no more than 1 in 100,000 and that goal is routinely met. If bonus grading points are awarded for toning, other eye appeal, pedigree, or whatever, that should be noted on the slab, as adders to the base technical grade, so that those of us who don't care about such "extras" may consider the coin appropriately. As Cloudsweeper posted, every submitted coin should be slabbed. I don't care if they use the same type slab, or use a black (or any other color) label, an oversized or differently shaped chunk of plastic to differentiate the problem free coins from the ones with problems, but I think a slab of some sort is in order. Disputes should be open to an independent third party/panel. Currently, the top tpgs do not allow any input from the outside during a review. It would be nice to see a display of integrity in avoiding dubious practices (such as the first strike designations) even though there are profits to be had. Making deals with the likes of the TV hucksters would be another to avoid. If the tpg has a policy, either strictly adhere to it or eliminate it. Turnaround should not take more than a few weeks. If more time is routinely taken, perhaps some hiring is in order. Rates charged should not be attached in any way to the coin's value or its grade. That just seems like an incentive for the tpgs to (err to) make more money. Rates should be charged by the type of coin, perhaps with some pricing breaks for certain quantity levels, or extra charges for quicker turnaround, etc, but not based on how an individual coin grades. There are likely other valid price variance factors that I have not mentioned. Unfortunately, even if all of the tpgs were operating at a "perfect" level tomorrow, I doubt it would take very long for money to begin to corrupt things, and the perfection would soon be a thing of the past.
