another fake on the bay

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  1. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

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  3. Mark Feld

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  4. TC2007

    TC2007 Senior Member

    I agree, it looks like a legitimate 1911-S, but that cleaning job would keep me away.
     
  5. Philly Dog

    Philly Dog Coin Collector

    Looks like a Brillo pad clean :D
     
  6. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    ok now that i look at it after i am more awake it looks legitimate
     
  7. Ed Goldman

    Ed Goldman coin collector

    This coin is real, and not cleaned. Some of those early Lincoln's have streaks accross them. I like them like that..It shows that they are real, And not fakes.
     
  8. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    But he clearly states it's collector's grade!!! ;)
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    What looks like cleaning is actually an imperfection in the alloy known as "wood graining". Some people collect these just for that look.

    Richard
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    ( Best Beavis voice) heh heh, he said wood !!

    Looks good to me
     
  11. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Looks real to me, and not cleaned... it's just one of the ones (common early on) with a planchet made where the copper isn't properly mixed, giving it the wood-grain look (often callied "woodies.")

    Actually think it looks kind of nice. Might put a bid in.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not all Lincolns that appear to have a wood grain effect actually have it. There are those who fake it (it isn't hard) just because there are so many who like the look in today's market. Food for thought.
     
  13. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    Thats a FACT !!! ( I learned the hard way )
     
  14. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Man, I was straining my eyes trying to see what you were talking about, lol. :D Looks fine to me, but I'm no expert.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  15. jon67

    jon67 Loves Lincoln's

    [​IMG] well this is as good as i can get it but you can see a bar in the middle of the center 1
     
  16. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Well no expert, but it would seem odd to fake an aspect that you're not even bothering to advertise on.

    I can't say for 100% thst this is real on this one, but it could be, and I don't see any obvious sign that it's not.
     
  17. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Just looks like a scratch to me...
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wasn't saying it was real or fake either way. But a lot of the posts prior to mine were saying that coin was likely real because of the wood grain effect. So I thought it might be beneficial to point out that this effect is often faked. Not a whole lot of folks know that.

    As to your first point, one of the best ways to make your auction effective, is to not point out the obvious. It is also one of the best ways to cover your butt when somebody who buys the coin comes back and says to you - Hey, that wood grain effect is fake ! Then all the seller has to do is say - I never said it had a wood grain effect.
     
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