NYINC purchase Little boots denarius

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  1. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    Hi again,

    Just wanted to show off my new Caligula denarius. Please feel free to post your Caligulas to compare and contrast and discuss their history.

    Thanks,
    Larry
     

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  3. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Great coin Larry. I've been after a Gaius in silver for a long time but it's tough when money is an issue...
     
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  4. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    D381386D-0CEE-44E9-939E-1A03646ECD64.jpeg I’m posting my Caligula....

    Oups !!
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It looks like a beautiful example @Swervo513. As soon as you have a chance, show an image of the reverse. Congrats btw.
     
  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    That is a Caliga the plural is Caligae. Caligula is diminutive, making Caligula "Little boots".
     
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  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    That is a very nice denarius. Here are mine.

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    Caligula and Agrippina AR Denarius, aF, toned, bumps and marks,
    (17.84mm, 2.680g) 180o
    Lugdunum (Lyon, France) mint, end of 37 - early 38 A.D.;
    Obv: C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT (counterclockwise), laureate head of Gaius right;
    Rev: AGRIPPINA MAT C CAES AVG GERM (counterclockwise), draped bust of Agrippina Senior (his mother), her hair in a queue behind, one curly lock falls loose on the side of her neck,
    RIC I 14 (R) (Rome), RSC II 2; BMCRE I 15 (Rome), BnF II 24, Hunter I 7 (Rome), SRCV I (2000) 1825 RSC 2
    Ex: the Jyrki Muona Collection, Ex: Forvm Ancient Coins.
    Purchased September 24, 2015 Forvm Ancient Coins.

    Calgula denarius ric 2.jpg

    Gaius (Caligula), with Divus Augustus. AD 37-41. AR Denarius
    (17.5mm, 3.26 g, 5h).
    Lugdunum (Lyon) mint. 1st emission, AD 37.
    Obv :Bare head of Gaius (Caligula) right C. CAESAR. AVG. GERM. P. M. TR. POT. COS
    Rev: Radiate head of Divus Augustus right, between two stars.
    RIC I 2; Lyon 157; RSC 11.
    Fine, toned, deposits, chipped at edges, a few scratches.
    CNG E-auction 428 Lot 344 September 5, 2018

    Gaius RIC 16 new copy.jpg

    Gaius, Silver denarius, RIC I 16 (R2, Rome), RSC I 2, Lyon 167, BnF II 21, BMCRE I 17, cf. SRCV I 1807 (aureus), VF, toned, attractive portraits, bumps and marks, some pitting, lamination defects,Lugdunum (Lyon, France) mint, weight 3.443g, maximum diameter 18.2mm, die axis 180o, 2nd emission, 37 - 38 A.D.; obverse C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT (counterclockwise from lower right), laureate head of Caligula right; reverse DIVVS AVG PATER PATRIAE (counterclockwise from lower right), radiate head of Divus Augustus right; ex Classical Numismatic Group, e-auction 69 (23 July 2003), lot 90
    Ex: Forum Ancient coins, March 2, 2018.
     
  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Lovely! And a dual portrait issue to boot! To boot ... get it? To boot ... o_O
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Caligula 4.jpg
    CALIGULA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: C CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR POT, bare head right
    REVERSE: DIVVS AVG PATER PATRIAE, radiate head of Divus Augustus right
    Struck at Lugdunum, 37/8AD
    3.5g, 18mm
    RIC I 10
     
  10. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Super coin Larry! Yes, please show the reverse.
     
  11. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    I hear ya jay. I’ve been saving for months for this. Really hurting the pocket but it fills the most expensive void in my 9 caesars set.

    That may have been something he wore! Lol

    The reverse should be there. It is a portrait of Germanicus. His uncle I believe?

    beautiful examples! Thanks for sharing. Especially love that RIC I 2

    What a beauty! The details are amazing.
     
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  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats Larry, looks much better then the assigned Fine !

    Here's my poorman's version , a fourree:

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  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Germanicus was his father. If that coin was not expensive, it should have been. See if you can get a clear photo of just the coin (cropping out the plastic) so we can see it better.
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I had some time on my hands, so I cropped and blackened the background. I didn't spend much time on it.
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  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Caligula is in the right in this set.
     
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thank you @TIF. Like I said, I didn't spend much time, so I didn't pay attention to which side was which.
     
  17. Swervo513

    Swervo513 Well-Known Member

    Does anyone have more info on this coin? Reference number etc
     
  18. abc123

    abc123 Active Member

    Information from when it appeared at Heritage auction last year:

    Gaius \'Caligula\' (AD 37-41). AR denarius (20mm, 3.62 gm, 2h). NGC Choice Fine 4/5 - 4/5, marks. Rome, AD 37-38. C•CAESAR•AVG•GERM•P•M•TR•POT, laureate head of Caligula right / GERMANICVS•CAES•P•C•CAES•AVG•GERM, bare head of Germanicus right. RIC I 18. From the Morris Collection. Ex Freeman & Sear (1995). HID05401242017

    https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/en/single/l29317798
     
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  19. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Here's my "poor man's" Caligula fourree:

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    Caligula (Augustus)
    Coin: Bronze Fourre Denarius Fourree
    C CAESAR AVG PON M TR POT III COS III - Laureate head right
    AGRIPPINA MAT C CAES AVG GERM - Draped bust of Agrippina right
    Mint: Rome (40AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 2.85g / 18mm / 180
    Rarity: Rare
    References:
    RIC I 22 (official)
    Lyon 179 (official)
    RSC 6 (official)
    Acquisition/Sale: numismaticaprados Ebay $0.00 10/17
    Notes: Jan 22, 19 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection

    The reverse legend translates: 'Agrippina mother of Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus'

    Well, it didn't cost very much and I'm proud of it.
     
  20. Dafydd

    Dafydd Supporter! Supporter

    • Here is my Caligula that I would welcome opinions and advice on. There are three cast copies two on Forum and one Wildwinds but mine appears a little sharper for example the dot after Imperator. The domitrovgrad example doesn't appear to have the central do in the reverse. It hasn't given me concern before as I knew I could return it and I was excited to obtain it was part of my 12 Caesars campaign but I'm gradually checking everything now provenance or not. Hindsight being the only precise Science it was too inexpensive. I would be more cautious now and check on receipt but time has been the enemy on checking up to now.To see a virtually identical coin marked as a dangerous casting does not fill me with confidence and I have more or less made my mind up negatively but would value other opinions.
    I'm concerned about the black flecks over the coin. I've looked at it with a 500 power microscope but to be frank, I don't know what I am looking for. I can see plenty of scratches and most are worn and I have tried really hard to find a die seam but can't find one. I'm having difficulty finding bubbles bt these could have been smoothed out. Maybe this was used to make a mould or maybe it is a fake but I would welcome opinions. The edge is pretty ragged and I believe I can see flow marks in the fields but of course I'm trying to convince myself.
    I tried to upload some microscope images but they saved as bmp's and won't transfer. CaligulaA.JPG CaligulaB.JPG
     
  21. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    ACSEARCH shows what appears to be the same coin as yours being sold at auction in 2016 by Savoca Numismatik:

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    Here's the link: https://www.acsearch.info/search.ht...s=1&thesaurus=1&order=3&currency=usd&company=

    Did you purchase your coin at this auction? If not, where did you buy it?

    If your coin is NOT the same coin from the Savoca auction, then I would suspect that one (or both) of these coins is a forgery.
     
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