missing from the mail, Lansing MI, presumed stolen

Hopefully your actions will help this parcel to surface and get delivered to you. Best wishes.

 

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Gag. I'm sorry you're going through this OP. I've had my share of problems with coin deliveries in the past.

 

Oh, no, there's something MUCH better. Only problem is, the porch pirate probably won't wait until he's home to open it...

 

That is the best! I love that clip!
Wish the OP the best of luck in your endeavors. I hope something pans out!

 

Hahahah, that is hilarious.

There is also this, which is probably much more practical. I'll let you sort it out with your local police department whether they'd be cool with it or not, but this guy invented a porch pirate prevention device:

https://www.theblankbox.com/

 

Jumping thru hoops happened to me years ago. I sold a vintage pair of Marantz Model 9 amplifiers to a person out in Washington state. I took them to UPS myself, but the two boxes never left the local depot. I didn't declare their real value because I did not want to declare $4000 for each box, making someone aware of the contents. These never showed up, the buyer's $8000 was refunded, and I got a small check from UPS barely covering the cost of shipping the two 45 pound boxes.

 

I experienced several USPS delivery screws ups. I got a mailbox at my local UPS store (not USPS). Solved the problem. Haven't had a delivery issue in almost 3 years. And at the UPS store, they will sign for packages requiring signature. That eliminates the problem of having to wait at home for a package which requires a signature. And, then there's the security issue. No need to let the world know that you are a coin collector. If someone is aware that you are receiving coins at your home, your are opening yourself up to theft or break-in.

 

It is up to you of course, but technically you paid for the coin to be delivered to YOU, not to the USPS.

As a seller, it is incumbent upon them to deliver the product. The agent they chose was the USPS. As a seller they can either self insure, use a third party insurance company, or use the carrier's insurance. That is up to them.

Ideally, it will turn up at the bottom of a mail bag or something and get delivered.

 

Yeah, I'm in the camp that thinks it hasn't been delivered yet, otherwise the last notation would have been "delivered". Of course, on the off chance that it was delivered to the wrong address (and not entered into the system), consider that the recipient doesn't know they have it yet - 12/27? - they could be away on Christmas vacation (hopefully they're not the Griswalds ).

There are a lot of unscrupulous people out there, but I still believe the good vastly outnumber the bad! Just sayin'...

 

Though I've had a couple things misdelivered to completely wrong addresses (as in the wrong state), I use a post office box for almost all my deliveries because I don't trust some of the people in my town!

 

During the holidays, you get different postal people, new postal people, or just an address mix up. Someone nearby may have received it and hasn't even looked at the address or opened it yet.

 

I love the folks at my relatively small town USPS. I had a similar experience a few months ago with a much less valuable coin (about $2). The email said "Delivered" but the coin was not in my box and the P.O. was closed for the weekend. Monday I went down to the Post Office and explained what happened, the clerk went to a back room for a couple of minutes, then came out and said, "According to our satellite records, it was delivered two houses down from you." They offered to retrieve it for me, but it was quicker to stop by there myself. The neighbors hadn't seen it until that morning because they had been out of town for the weekend. All was well and my coin was in hand.

This is a little different from the OP's case because the package was marked "Out for delivery" and never marked delivered. Unfortunately it seems logical that either the OP's delivery person is incompetent or dishonest or that someone in the Post Office marked it "Out for delivery" but didn't actually send it out, leaving the mail carrier holding the bag. Either option is a shame. I hope it gets delivered!

 

Sorry, but if I print a shipping label directly from eBay or PayPal using the address you provided, packaged it well like I always do, and the carrier marked it as delivered, then I am not responsible for the loss of the package. Ebay and PayPal would side with me every single time.

 

The seller did their part. By your statement: since you live in Virginia if I bought a coin from you, you would need to deliver it to me in Pennsylvania. It's a good thing for you that I don't live in Washington State, like I used to.

Unreasonable on your part to say "As a seller, it is incumbent upon them to deliver the product."

 

The letter carrier is responsible for tracking scans - the last scan was 'out for delivery, so it's on the carrier - maybe it was a substitute/relief carrier who didn't scan the mailpiece at delivery (to an incorrect address) or maybe something more shady - either way, the focus should be on the letter carrier who last scanned the mailpiece - keep 'bothering' the delivery supervisor at your local P.O. until the matter is resolved - good luck with your case.

 

Interesting timing, but this may not be completely true. A buyer currently has a PayPal case open against me. He says the item is marked as delivered, but he didn't get it. Now, he has 2 addresses on file with eBay. His primary being his home, and his secondary being a PO Box. It went to his home, like the label I printed said, but for some reason, the USPS resent it to his PO Box. He says, "they must've put it in the wrong box, because it isn't there." I called eBay and the rep was confused about why they didn't send the coin to the primary address. We speculate because of the holiday, delivery issues, access to his mailbox due to weather, OR perhaps he had his mail stopped over the holiday while he was away. In any case, the eBay rep promised me nothing as far as me being off the hook, since it didn't go to his primary address on file. The buyer had an eBay case open, but I think he panicked and opened a PayPal case as well, which automatically closed the EBay case against me (since you can't open a case in eBay and PayPal at the same time over the same item). I'm betting he didn't know that and was disappointed when the eBay case closed automatically. Also, I am not even allowed to respond to the PayPal case or add information. It simply says it is "under review." It's been that way for 3 days now. The item in question is a PCGS MS63 1883 CC Morgan. I'll keep y'all posted about what they decide.

 

Have you contacted USPS? I know the scanners the carriers use are GPS tagged, so if something is scanned "delivered" they know exactly where it was scanned, but i'm not sure how it works with a PO box. Maybe there's video inside the post office that would show which box they put it in?

 

I called PayPal in that case and got the claim against me cleared up in my favor. The tracking showed sufficient performance on my end.

 

I been fortunate and never had a package lost. Just wondering though. In an age where morals seem to be in question. Would it be prudent to have a shipping label that says “Bobs Coins & Collectibles”? Or rather something like “Bobs Party Shop” as the shipper?... Perhaps something like that might dissuade a potential theft. Just a thought.... Only reason I say that is my office ships commercial bathroom hardware by the truckload. It’s pretty obvious from our shipping labels. In thirty years of business we haven’t had a toilet paper roller lost in shipping that I can remember. Nobody wants to steal them.

 

I'll call PayPal tomorrow.