Do you agree.....Indian Gold 5 Dollars

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  1. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    with AU53 on this coin?
    Does this Scratch obverse prevent this IHHE from a straight grade?
    What' s your opinion? IMG_20181214_114424.jpg IMG_20181214_114713.jpg
     
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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I don’t think the scratch would prevent it from getting a straight grade, but it looks more in the XF40/45 range to me.
     
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  4. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    From my experience as an appreciable collector of that type and date, you'd probably get a better grade (~AU50) normally from PCGS. I've found them to really be inconsistent on grading coins with "scratches". I'd suggest a NGC submission.

    JMHO
     
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  5. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    She likely has a shot at AU50/53, but I don’t think a Details grade would be appropriate.
     
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  6. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    If not your coin, or seen in person, I would be more concerned that the obverse and reverse pics are of the same coin.

    There appears to be a lot more open space around the coin in the reverse pic than the obverse pic.
     
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  7. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    The scratch seems minor, and looks market Acceptable to me.
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The scratch is minor. The coin is more like a XF-45, maybe an AU-50 on a good day.
     
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  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    You show me a blurry, out of focus picture like that and ask me to comment on a scratch? Really, man, you've been here long enough to know that this is nonsense. Nobody can give you an opinion based on those pictures.
     
  10. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looksmore XF to me, too. I see a couple of obv scratches and a few hairlines near the bottom too, don't know if that would prevent a straight grade. And, authenticity is always a concern with Indian head gold.
     
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  11. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    I may be considered "Nobody", but having collected these coins for many years, with many similar "dealer" discussions, having watched TPG grading practices, I beg to differ.

    I've hundreds of these coins, many CACed, which are quite easy to grade with poor images of the Obverse headband, knot, feathers, Reverse upper portion of wing. Especially with the current "Market Grading" practices of the "premier" TPG.

    CAC "beaned" coins indicate above average TPG graded coins, which many buyers would consider over-graded.

    I've beautiful specimens which were straight graded by others, but came back from a re-grade as a detail coin because of a miniscule scratch, while others with a straight grade appeared as might a cats claw sharpening toy.

    JMHO
     
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  12. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Pic isn't that bad, come on, why so rude?
    Every "Nobody" has an opinion:)
    Be a friendly guy....;)
     
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  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Sorry, that did come off more a-hole-ish than I intended.
     
  14. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Best wishes for you in 2019!:)
     
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  16. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    What do you mean with MA?
     
  17. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    MA = Market Acceptable.
     
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  18. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Thanks:)
     
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  19. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    FYI

    PCGS gave this coin an AU50........
     
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  20. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    +1
     
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  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    AU-50 sounds reasonable. My concern is that the photo makes the coin look like “white gold” i.e. dipped, which many collectors don’t like. It may be that the photo is overexposed. The coin might have more of the natural gold color when you see it in person.
     
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