Merry Xmas /Happy Holidays to the good people on here.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Beginner345, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    This is ridiculous in the extreme (and no I'm not part of a group or clique). If this keeps up I will most certainly "ignore" any future posts. This is not the place to be acting like this. Just stop!
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2018
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  3. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    It actually is ridiculous, doesn't matter how much you dislike or hate a person, you should still be respectful to eachother. Besides, Christmas is the time of the year that all people in this world can celebrate without any hatred, hence why you wish everyone merry Christmas and not just a specific group.

    Anyway I am not going to bother with this anymore
     
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  4. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member


    Pavlos Those who want respect, GIVE respect

    I will wish a Merry Xmas to whoever and whomever I choose. Free country. You can deal with that however you like. Your choice. accept it or put me on ignore. that's your choice too.

    They have terrorized this board and the rest of the members let it slide, sorry Charlie- aint happenin here. Even one of the mods admitted this. So, don't act like I making any of this up.

    I don't recall either of you stepping up and defending anyone who was ever attacked by the clique for no reason.. not ONCE.

    You all talk about letting things slide?

    The board clique are the heavyweight champions of not letting things go.

    Read above

    going through old posts from July!?! Yeah okay. They love to dwell too, they just wait for the right moment.
     
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  5. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    If they respect you, respect them. They disrespect you, still respect them. The actions of other people should not let you decrease your good manners, you represent yourself not others, I think pretty basic for mature humans.
     
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  6. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    Sorry but I cant disagree more

    I was taught to never respect anyone who doesn't respect me back.( or others)

    if they don't respect me, then they dont deserve my respect

    if I do then I invite MORE disrespect towards others. You are setting a bad precedent. I don't like it when bullies attack innocents. Do you?

    If you really feel that way then..... honestly? people all around you must walk all over you throughout your entire life. I have to assume you were probably bullied in school since they look for weakness like lions look for weak antelope.

    The clique is still on this board because the rest of you LET it. The mods let it
    You allow them to disrespect others.... and by that logic, you are an enabler- unfortunately that makes it so you are no better than they are.

    If this was any other board they would have gotten kicked out long ago, I was taught self respect growing up. Maybe you weren't, and that's a shame to see.
     
  7. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    I have to wonder why you still come here if it’s as terrible as you say it is?
     
  8. Pavlos

    Pavlos You pick out the big men. I'll make them brave!

    If you disrespect the people who disrespect you, you are already at the bottom together with them.

    There is a difference in letting people walk over you and having good manners. There is a difference between accepting people's disrespect and putting a line on a respectful manner. I know tons of ways to respectfully solve a problem with another person, do you? And no I never got bullied because people respected me, clearly nobody does that to you, what you give you get.

    Talking about life, why are you all day on here complaining about how horrible this forum and the people are, you got nothing better to do?

    Anyway have a good day.
     
  9. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    you are on here too. You are on this thread. You keep saying you will let it go but then you make another post

    I am on here because every dark cloud has a silver lining. Not everyone is as bad as the clique is.

    as i said if you respect someone who disrespect you, you enable them to do the same to others. That's okay with you? because its NOT ok with me.

    You aren't helping anyone by that logic. You are letting people hurt others.

    You are treating Self respect as a disease.

    that's would be like allowing a child to be viciously beaten by a parent for no reason because its none of your business.

    You can turn the other cheek , jesus, but I prefer an eye for an eye.

    and as I said- on the beginning of this thread SOME people are nice on here. who have helped me out

    and that's who I thanked- and wished a Merry Xmas. Nothing more- nothing less.

    if you want to enable the clique - go right ahead. But I wont.

    Its amazing that everyone says to let it go yet none of them DO!
     
  10. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Beginner,

    I have an honest question for you. What are you hoping to achieve with your recent posts?

    By your own admission you value the support of many of the members on here when it comes to authentication opinions, attribution information etc. Do you not think you might be causing many of the people with knowledge you seek to be less likely to help out in the future?

    In my experience the vibe on this board is much more relaxed than you would find on other numismatic forums. If you wish to get along here it is not hard. Post some of your coins that you like from your collection and be nice to people.

    You seem to be having some sort of dispute with certain members on the board that the rest of us are unaware of. Who specifically are you referring to when you call out the clique you keep mentioning?
     
  11. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member


    Wait, soo you are saying its okay for them to abuse me and others as long as they help with Iding and authentication in the future?!!!?

    Does that mean its okay for a husband to beat his wife as long as he puts food on the table and a roof over their heads???

    Really?! Wow. That's a horrible thought.

    Tell me you aren't serious.

    If they arent going to help me, they don't have to. This isn't the only numismatic s board. You can lead a horse to water. IF they want to be that immature, nothing I can do to stop them.

    and to answer your question- I am sure you will figure out who the clique is. If you don't already know now, you will later.
     
  12. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    Speaking of respect, You people on here are NEVER going to survive in life if you don't respect yourself

    if you don't respect yourself, then others will see it. and then wont respect you either.

    God Helps those who helps themselves
     
  13. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Since I don't know to whom you are referring when you reference the members of this clique I have no way of knowing whether the same members that you accuse of abusing you are the members that may be able to help you with thier knowledge. So, no, it would be impossible for me to imply any such thing as you suggest. In addition, the leap in magnitude between a coin forum disagreement and domestic abuse is also absurd and the reference is in poor taste in my opinion.

    My point is that many of our members that may or may not be in this "clique" might be inclined to ignore threads from posters that they know have been involved in past drama irrespective of who is in the right or wrong. Seems anger in this case is self defeating for no logical purpose?

    If this clique is so dangerous to the health of the board and have been abusive to you specifically then why are you so hesitant to address them specifically? It's seems hardly consistent with your goal of standing up for yourself if you respond so strongly but in such an indirect manner.

    Either way have a pleasant evening.
     
  14. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    rewind to a previous post

    7. if new member EVEN EVEN STILL continues to do something we dont like, and if the moderator will not respond to our constant whining, we will ALL agree to put that new member on ignore!

    You are saying you have to eat crow , kiss their you know what an do what they say or they will put you on ignore?

    and I think I made a valid point. I consider it to be a rational analogy. abuse is abuse.

    You are are saying we should all be abused as long as we get something in return.I am shocked that you would be for that. Have you ever abused your spouse or partner?

    if they are that immature that they need their ego stroked, THEN THEY CAN PUT ME ON IGNORE. How many times to have to say that? They can ignore me from now on! Don't worry. I wont lose any sleep over that.

    There is an old saying by the Japanese Samurai: better to die on your feet than live on your knees
    let em! What do you car

    And if you haven't figured out who they are by now, you never will.

    so much for my attempts to let it go

    oh and there are other boards. and none of them have a clique like this one. I don't know where you get this relaxed thing.. but you are living in a dream world. All the other coin boards I participate in don't have a clique like that. No behind smooching. Just mature people. Maybe they got lucky and maybe this board didntl. Not everyone on here is like this. I can tell some are decent kind and polite. Sound familiar? geez you people are incredible.

    I say 1 thing and you all jump down my throat- you defend the clique because they are board regulars, and you single out the troublemaker for speaking the truth turning me into the bully and the real bullies into the victims. Seriously give it up.. don't waste your time. Just use the ignore button... If you are going to sit here and defend them, then you BECOME THEM and I will have no more dealings with you ever again. Goodbye
     
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  15. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

  16. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    All right, this has gone too far.
    No offence but you are in serious need of some professional guidance.
    Ignore Mode On.
     
  17. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    don't forget the likes ^^^^^^^^
     
  18. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    ^^^^^more likes. The cliques ego is waiting.....
     
  19. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    One last thing. if you TRULY are decent, then this thread shouldn't have been any concern to you at all.

    Only people who aren't nice would have taken any offense to this thread.

    Hey.The truth hurts.
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    This is far enough for me. Ignore mode on!
     
  21. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    ^^(looking for an excuse- Didn't even need to get involved)


    Why are you telling me ? Why not just do it?
     
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