1833 Bust Half with a surprise

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Treashunt, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Bust Half Nuts' surprise.
    This one is (especially) for Ben.

    I got this piece this weekend, and, yes, it is a low grade, but:
    The countermark is excellent and (grading of the countermark) would probably be about VF, altho the host coin is only a good.

    Before you all ask, I paid $45 for the coin in a very scratched up Interceptshield holder.

    Comments?
    Opinions?

    Thanks, feel free to make negative comments, nasty appraisals, and very bad jokes.

    P.S. I forgot it is O-103a, which is R-3.
     

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  3. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    thats kind of cool
     
  4. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I think it's cool, also.
    Any idea why people did this to coins?
     
  5. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    very nice coin, Frank. I love the older series and I am glad when you show them, because I learn so much in the process. keep up the good work.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks, Mike.

    dreamer:
    It was common practice in the 1800's.
    They were used for advertising purposes.
     
  7. wledswift

    wledswift New Member

    Once again I have to say that I'm a new collector. I understand where countermarks came from, advertisements and some personal vanity. Are there countermarks that make the coin more collectible. Are there coutermark collectors. I'm just curious and still trying to learn. By the way thankyou to all on the sight. I have learned so much here.
     
  8. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    If what Im reading is the "Ward" that applies your piece is pretty rare in the token/counterstamp world.

    There are (3) reported in the Standard catalog of US Tokens. (1) R.8 HT# G420 on a 1816 & 1838 Large cent,
    (1) R.9 HT #H420 Which the counterstamp was struck on a Spanish 8 Reales

    & (1) R.9 HT# J420 on a 1807 US Large cent "WARD /67 MARKET ST.

    Johm Ward was a silversmith located at 67 market street from 1803 to 1839.


    Very Cool-:)
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I like it - nice coin!
     
  10. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    LOL, Love it. Nice addition to your collection. How far are you from the 'CLUB" as it were?

    Take Care
    Ben
     
  11. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Treashunt!

    You have thrown down the gauntlet and I accept it sir!

    Bad joke forthcoming!

    You now have a Ward coin. How long till you complete the set with a June, Wally and Beaver?

    clembo
     
  12. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    wasn't the beaver coin a Canadian Nickel??
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Ben:
    Thank you, and I am still a bit away from the application.
    I think that I still need about 10 pieces to start the process.
    (and I had better have a few extras, just to be safe).

    Clembo:
    Thanks, I need that.
    Also, see Mike's answer before replying.
    (thanks, Mike, ya beat me to it!)


    budgood:
    Yes, it is Ward (in script).
    Does it match the style of the listed ones?
    Thanks for looking it up, I do not have that reference.
    What else do they say?
     
  14. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Treashunt,

    Actually I like the coin but as Beaver would say

    "I don't know about the Canadian coins on accounta I'm not from Canada and junk"
     
  15. Very nice! I like it.
     
  16. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Unfortunaltely the book does not picture it , but with the others listed it does seem that it fits the description. I copied all the info that was listed in the first response.Sorry but thats about all that I can tell you .These can sometimes be vauge in the catalogging.
     
  17. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Nice pickup Frank. I picked up a 1817 a while back with a hole in it. It needed a new home.. : )
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks a bunch!

    So, apparently it is a scarce counterstamp.

    :thumb:
     
  19. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Sweet coin man! Can't think up any jokes from my end, but if I do, like Arnie said, "I'll be bach" :D. Sweet coin. :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
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