Go ahead, let me have it. D below the window, error correct? What about the front, see any DD there or am I over analyzing aka trying to learn too hard again? Thanks ya'll
I think it's more likely the second answer. When we are looking for something that we are not too experienced at finding, and we want to find it bad enough, we start to see things that are either not really there, or, are there but they are not what we think they are. For example, let me tell you what I see in/on this coin : First, let's use the top pic only. Go left from the mint mark towards the window and just before you get there, go down a little. Is that the D you're talking about? Do you see the D to the left of that one, and the D above the first one, and the D down and to the left of the first one? All told, I see 5 Ds right there, all touching or surrounding each other, or am I just imagining those Ds simply because I want to see them so badly? Is it just the coin's damage playing tricks with my imagination? Let's look further. Go straight down from those Ds to just below the edge of the building. Do you see that white dot? Isn't that a D surrounding that white dot? Now let's go to the O in Monticello. Down and slightly left of that O, do you see the number 5 , that's on the front of a house, that's on the edge of a dark pond, with someone sitting the middle of that dark pond? I do. Now let's move over to the E and R in AMERICA. What's that I see sticking out from between the E and the R? Dare I say it? edited - no you don't dare. Farther down between the E and the R I see a hand holding up 2 fingers. Continuing North from there to the closed part of the R , do you see that face looking back at you? And between the R and the I, do you see the " Kilroy " looking over the hump of the R? Continuing North to the circle of the C, do you see the block letter A when you turn your head to the left? and when you turn your head to the right, do you see the face with 2 eyes and a pointy nose looking at you?and directly above that do you see the chicken with the pointed beak looking to the right? Now let's move directly to the rim, do you see the Petroglyphs on the edge of the coin? They look like bird tracks and other things. Now Hagen, I'm not trying to make fun of you. I'm merely pointing out how truly easy it is to see "things" in the damage on coins. Are those things really there ? When I allow my imagination to control my vision, then Yes, I see those things. But are they really, really there? No, I'm only allowing my imagination to control my mind's interpretation of the marks from damage that are there. Now, as a sidenote, let me tell you about something that really is somewhere. Back in 1972, when I was a draftsman with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, I was responsible for preparing drawings of the Galveston Jetty beach condition surveys. Part of that drawing was to fill in the description blocks of each drafting sheet. The description blocks contained lots off letters and numbers saying which sheet was what. After my work was done, each sheet was photographed and reduced in size and combined in a book. Just for fun, when I filled in those lettering and number blocks, I would draw in Peace signs in the letter Os and the number 0s. While the sheets were full size, you could see the Peace signs rather easily, if you knew they were there, but, once they were photographed and reduced in size, you almost had to have a magnifying glass to see them. To this day, those tiny Peace signs are still there. Now that brings us back to the present conundrum. Would mint workers purposely put tiny letter Ds on coins? Maaayyyybbbbeeee , but not likely. So how could such tiny Ds get there? Obviously they are much smaller than the actual Mint Mark D. Did a mint worker elf with a tiny punch do that? No, all those things are is post mint damage that our imaginations are telling us that they look like Ds. When you use magnification to enlarge damage on coins, it starts to look like (or our imagination tells us it looks like) things that are not really there.
1). I am NOT an expert, even at humor, though I thank you for your appreciation thereof. I hope someday to be considered an expert....at something....perhaps humor....perhaps not. But , Hagen, I truly do see the little D that you're talking about. It is really there. It's just that it's there only because the coin has so much damage on it that it looks like that. I also see the other stuff, but again it's just damage that happens to have shapes that look like what I described. Now for your new question, Yes , I see the bottoms of the letters have something going on there, but as I pointed out , I am NOT an expert. Now when an expert does weigh in on it, chances are he/she will simply say that it's PMD-Post Mint Damage, however, there is an outside chance that those marks could be more than PMD.There are references available to look into that. I hope that when other members reply, that they provide those references to you. Thank you Hagen, keep searching and keep posting.
@Hagenhomestead - I removed your last post. Try again without all the inappropriate content. Frankly, I didn't feel like going in and separately editing out each violation, so the post is gone. Please read the Rules. *
Yeah, LM , I didn't have time to mention it to him. I was late taking my grandkids to school. However full of inappropriate words it was, it was an entertaining post. The 5 letter word that [ EDIT : I PREVIOUSLY POSTED, ALONG WITH THE OTHER NEWER EXPRESSION THAT I POSTED ] is not allowed? lol I didn't realize at first that you also censored my post. Perhaps it was the use of that word that gave him impetus to use the words he chose. If so, I apologize. BTW, did you follow my directions and "see" any of the things I pointed out? With just a wee bit of imagination, they are there.
I did not censor your post. Another mod or admin did. Read the rules. Nothing that wouldn't be allowed on a 1950s TV show. That's the standard.
I just finished reading the rules...I don't know why I didn't see those before, perhaps I was in a hurry to join. Thanks for reminding me.
I gave up looking for an image of Jesus on my toast, but finding coin errors is not much easier. I still look at all of the error posts because I am trying to learn.
I appreciate it @Hookman. Might not be an expert but you've seen and been involved much longer than me so in that regard, anyone with more experience, I look up to and appreciate the knowledge. You're a good man, thank you!