Howdy Lad, no-one is doubting your desire to learn the in's and outs of the coin world, but you have to consider that there is a small possibility that you have been wrong and for certain you have been rude to some of the members. Try counting to 100 and then say you are sorry and start over....It works for Bud...
Okay, let's assume all of this the unquestionable truth. Unfortunately, it would strongly suggest you've likely been misled by the ridiculous amount misinformation out there and means you're going to have to relearn much if you want to experience any success in this hobby. This means you've two real choices: either continue down the path of ignoring the help you've been offered, or to realize the board has been trying to educate you and appreciate its generosity by actually engaging instead of dismissing. It's disappointing to accept the fact a coin isn't what we had hoped and every one of us have experienced this, but the sooner you accept reality and learn from it, the better off you'll be. This hobby is centered in knowledge and there's simply no way around it unless willing to pay for someone else's. Again, if truly passionate about your new hobby and genuinely desiring to learn, you've come to one of the better online places to do so, but this is a two-way street meaning the more you give the more you'll get in return. Think about it.
Yeah, and get back to the fish! At least we know they are what they are and not what someone thinks they are!
14 months, next year will be 50 years for me and I am still learning from people on here! You have heard from the foremost error expert in the country, and hundreds of years of collective experience of the members here. Unless I missed it, there has not been one member who agrees with your assessment of this coin. You need to look at all the facts when coming to a determination. You refuse to even answer the question of how a 1980's or newer copper plated zinc planchet was in use in the 1850's. Your only "evidence" is that you think you can see the remains of the flying eagle design. Countering this is the impossible planchet, the extremely unlikely event of having a flying eagle cent [that is struck on an impossible planchet] miraculously finding it's way into a coining press striking coins that exactly match the impossible planchet that was struck with the flying eagle design 140 years before. There is nothing wrong with exploring new theories, but you need to be realistic.
Mr cutler i had this coin goin almost a year now ever since i seen it for the first time it sticked out from the rest of the bunch .a year ago i knew nothing about coins even to the person who is not a coin enthusiast this coin will catch his attention cause it did to me and the only logical theory for me is that an abscent minded employee decided to sneak a eagle cent into the mint strike the eagle cent with a lincholn then sneak it back out but he failed it got strukc and ended up in circulation but thats just me
OK, how did a flying eagle cent get struck on a copper coated zinc planchet? This question has been asked numerous times and you continue to ignore it. All the facts have to fit, not just the ones that are convenient.
i dont have an answer for that one Mr,cutler give me a few let me get more informed on composition characteristics of these metals what to look for it would be great to have you or one of the other enthusiast who know their facts close by to check out the coin themselves.
Well if they snuck in that flying eagle cent, it weighed 4.66 grams when it came in. If it was struck by these 1990's dies it would still weigh 4.66 grams. What does your coin weigh? My bet is very close to 2.5 grams.
No, you are absolutely not doing this. You are trying to prove a bunch of wonky ideas you have about coins to the people who are most knowledgeable about them. We have provided you fact after fact on why, for example, it is absolutely impossible to have a flying eagle cent struck on a modern planchet. Instead of listening to any of these facts, you just argue with everyone and say we need to re-think. All you are doing is getting yourself ignored one member by the next. Soon enough, no one is going to listen to you, let alone help you. If you want to learn, if you want to figure your coins out, stop talking so much, stop arguing, and LISTEN! You’ve stared at some pictures, we’ve read article after article on the steps that go into minting a coin, and even more on how various errors are made. We even had Fred Weinberg, one of THE foremost experts on errors give you advice. You can lead a rose to water...