Woohoo...got a 1798 Large Cent

Wonderful pick up! Kind of rare to see one in that good of shape for the age.

 

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May we ask what you paid for it?

 

Ive been trying to find A nice 1798 cent like this one. could I ask how much you payed for it?

 

Small 8, type II hair and letters. S-187 is the last variety for the year

 

Beautiful cent. I have a 1798 as well but it's very worn. Your's is MUCH nicer.

Andy

 

cool!

 

All 1798's are nice. I have about 5/6, but this is the only one of that quality. As for the pictures (copyright or no copyright) I would certainly ask for permission before using someone elses pictures. Just the right thing to do in my opinion. I think the coin is a solid F-15.

 

I ask because this case makes the image copyright in doubt. I think by default the photographer can't really claim that a picture of coin is copyrighted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_v._Corel

 

Confusing, huh? Tell me about it. Here, see how this works for you...

The guy who snapped the photograph owns the copyright in the photograph. In a hundred years from now, after his copyright in the photograph expired, the Bridgeman Art Museum comes along and reproduces an exact duplicate of the photograph on their copy machine, and next Corel Corporation comes along and does the same exact thing, and gets sued by the Bridgeman Art Museum for copyright infringement. The Bridgeman Art Museum loses. That's all that case says. Once that photographer's copyright expired and he hadn't assigned it to anybody, it's dead, and the photograph is considered "in the public domain."

PS: And let me just retract my statement that Mark was referring to copyright law. Standing corrected by Mark: "As for the pictures (copyright or no copyright) I would certainly ask for permission before using someone elses pictures. Just the right thing to do in my opinion."

 

Wait, so how does a photographer gain copyright over a public domain image (i.e. the Coin itself)?

 

Doug outdrew me on this one, he's fast on the draw. But everything he just said, exactly the way he said it, that's exactly the way it is...

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you're confusing yourself with the coin and the image of the coin. They are two different things. Make a copy of the coin and the govmint will be calling on you. They have, however, given a blanket permission to make images of their work (coins, bills) within certain guidelines and with certain restrictions being applied.

OK. Now for the photograph. You take a photo. A photographer would say create a photograph. The photograph is NOT the coin. The photo is the creation of its maker. Different people may get similar images of the same subject but it would be most unusual for everyone to make an image identical with each other. We, therefore, have an individual who has made a unique image of a subject. Therefore it is HIS, belongs to him, and, upon its creation, is copyrighted by him under common law even if no formal copyright application has been made or granted. That copyright remains with the creator until and unless he assigns it to another, in part or whole, temporarily or permanently (or any variation of combination thereof.)

It's the pic not the coin.

 

One other thing about copyright. I've not checked eBay's Terms Of Use but it would not surprise me if people selling here were, without realizing it, assigning their copyright for both words and images to eBay whenever they place (or "publish") an auction. It's not only a means of protection but a grab, as well, used by most every site on the internet (magazines, as well.) They don't want the bother of sorting out one-use, USA only, Commonwealth of Britain, etc. - any of the limited use copyright assignments. (And who knows, maybe they'll be lucky and fall into something that turns really valuable down the road.)

 

Very Nice!!! One of these days I will pick one up! Thanks for sharing...

 

My pictures:

 

When you list the auction on eBay I believe in the terms you do give them rights. Same goes if you host the images on eBay you give them at least some rights to the images. If on the other hand you host your images on another site and just have a link to them so they show in your auction then eBay would NOT have rights to them becuase they never hosted them or had them in their posession.