NT OR AT on this 1960D Franklin

These are the two enders from a roll I purchased a couple years ago. @Pickin and Grinin
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End of roll toners are.... weird. That's the best way to describe them. They often have unusual patterns such as this. The fact that you took pictures of them in the roll lends credibility.

The toning looks natural in this context, but it also looks like the roll was improperly stored. It may have been in a humid environment?

However, I think if you just showed me those coins and didn't tell me where they were from, my reaction would be different. I probably wouldn't question the reverse toner - it looks like an EOR. I would question the obverse toner, however - it has an appearance that I normally associate with artificial toning.

 

The obverse one would almost certainly register an AT in my book (it looks like some of the color was almost burned into it or applied with some sort of liquid chemical) and the reverse toner is also questionable. I see several circular orbs on the reverse toner. While it’s not definitive, I have seen those associated with coins that had AT applied.

I can also be convinced that both would get the environmental damage designation instead of AT.

The picture of the roll helps a bit, but remember someone could have put that roll together with seeded coins (or even applied AT methods to the end coins while they were in the roll).

Now this is all just my opinion. The coins might be MA. As long as you’re happy with them in your collection, that is all that is important.

 

I knew very little of toning at the time I purchased it. Now when I look at it it makes me question the splotchy-ness on the obverse. The wrapper was rather loose making me wonder whether or not someone put a liquid on the surface. You can also see where the rolled crimp rubbed the toning off of The surface on some of the lettering. What is an EOR?

 

EOR stands for End Of Roll toning.

 

How do the coins compare to the photos in hand?

 

End Of Roll. It's an acronym for these sorts of creatures.

 

The story is the roll had been found lodged in the back of on old safe in an estate sale. Just seems odd to me that the reverse have no toning creep. The reason I am posting is to see if it would be considered MA or not.

 

Exactly like in the rolls. I took the photos outside in natural light with the plastic cover off and the light making the color shine as much as possible with an angle.

 

Here are a couple of EORs that I used to own:

 

EOR toning can create unusual patterns and colors, but I'm not convinced that either is market acceptable. It looks like someone may have spilled something on the roll.

 

The uppermost pics scream "LIQUIDS".

 

Looks natural for the end of the roll but once removed it looks artificial. Probably improperly stored.

 

I personally don't feel that they are market acceptable mainly because of the colors. The story lends a little belief to there acceptability, but still don't think they would make it into a straight graded slab.

I also feel those spots stand out and induced the toning.

 

Morgans don't do much for me but man that Franklin is Gorgeous!!

 

Does something for me too. It makes "Syrup of Ipecac" unnecessary.

 

I have been on the fence about sending the EOR reverse in for grading. What do you guys think?

 

Not worth it. You'd need a 65, or FBL, for it to really be worth it, and you won't get either of those on that coin. You're more likely to get UNC, Questionable Color, than anything else.

 

Pretty sure this would get QT at a TPG.

 

Acronym warning!