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An App? Only one in person, the only way that’s good enough for my standards. I have to hope it wasn’t among the best examples.

 

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1) You may correctly so assume. I was one of her most ardent BoG candidacy backers due to her jihad against coin doctors. What an utter disappointment!

2) Is her “need” to be among the best, or to associate herself with the truly richest? That is a “thing” for some people.

3) Does she really do that much crossing and submitting, or is she mostly just an auction junky who buys PCGS plastic already beaned? What I read from her is mostly auction surfing, and avoiding overgrades that HAVE a bean. Think of THAT concept!

4) My source never indicated she doesn’t have people on staff at Legend who can grade well. The indictment was that she herself cannot.

 

By the way, if you ever hear of an opportunity to watch Laura and me at an insult tournament, get the popcorn franchise. You’ll make a mint. I’m every bit the shrinking violet that she is.

 

I have sold them ranging from $150 all the way up to $1250. If you were not impressed, you didn't see one of the best examples. I sold this one last month for $260, which would make it one of the bottom feeders of the group.

 

From Legend's website, she wrote this to amend her latest Hot Topic: Coin Dealing in the Future.

Are you saying that her business model is to buy PCGS CAC material at auction, and then ask for a small brokers fee from her client?

When your source decides to go on the record and publicly make that statement, then I will consider the allegation. Until then, it is just gossip.

 

Oh, we know Kurt, we know!

 

What that pic does is make me want to see it in the flesh. I find it difficult to believe that flat stills can do the subject justice.

Oh, that is not to say I’d want to OWN one. Wanting to see one is a whole different case.

 

No, I am suggesting her clientele tends to be a “price is almost no object” clintele and she is able to mark up high end pieces more than anyone else could do, due to a carefully manicured reputation.

 

I own another coin from that same submission.

 

As for my source’s identity, I’ll add this. There were 6 or 7 other top notch names present, and no one dissented.

 

Are they all warnicks? I don’t remember that the one I saw was. I could have missed it.

Don’t get me started on warnicks in general. Too many hoarded. Not scarce. I prefer the pre-war Jeff’s. Lots of odd wrinkles to their history.

 

I guess this illustrates a difference. I’m not so into “pretty”. I collect for the stories, the historical wrinkles. All “pretty” ever did for me in my life was make me hire lawyers.

Pretty eventually turns mean and nasty. “Entitlement.” My least favorite thing, by far.

 

Yes, the Appalachians were strictly limited to war nickels. I love war nickels, they are my favorite. Few other coins can match the luster and color combination of a rainbow toned war nickel.

 

To each their own.

 

Hey, don’t get me wrong. Other than marriages, I did okay. I even dated the future spouse of a multiple Indy 500 winner (Mears) and a then-future Penthouse model (Yup, I did photograph her) so I have few complaints. It’s the marriages. The horror, the horror.

Hey, Doug had 4 going at once. I never pulled off that one.

 

FWIW, I agree with Laura’s lamentations generally and find it a bad trend for the hobby as a whole, but I am TOTALLY at ease, myself, with an auction-only world. It’s where I am already due to the near-maniacal preference for the auction model of doing business here where I hang my hat. But I’m aware that it’s not everybody’s bag of tricks.

The crackout culture is partly okay with me. I crack out coins too. The thing is, I DON’T RESUBMIT THEM. EVER. NEVER HAVE. ALSO NEVER SENT A COIN TO CAC. I really can take or leave slabs. I have come to appreciate filling Capital holders. REAL old school, eh? Again, keep in mind, liquidity is irrelevant to a guy who never sells.

Some people have more money than time to throw at numismatics. Money is my limiting factor. Time I’ve got until my meds stop working. I’m okay dying with a reference book and magnifying glass on my lap. I am the last guy who would choose to work with a dealer, but no, I would not recommend that for everyone. The learning IS THE WHOLE FUN for me, not the having/owning.

Until you can wrap your mind around that concept, you’ll NEVER “get” people like me.

 

And Paul, as long as your standard is “going on the record”, you’ll forever be cut off from the best information out there on this hobby. It happens at receptions at conventions, in public but not published. And here’s your clue: often it is the publishERS (ahem!) who have and share the best unpublished dirt on people. Think. They’ll say out loud opinions they won’t put in print.

You see, sometimes money talks. Other times, money SILENCES talk. Think. In numismatics, there IS NO separation of editorial from advertising. People use their money as weaponry.

 

I don’t attend conventions or shows, I’m not interested in gossip, or hob knobbing with numismatic elites. All I care about is assembling my collection.

To you, this hobby is an expansive social endeavor. To me it is a private hobby that only share with people on internet coin forums.

Again, it falls under, to each their own.

 

Amen to that. Everything above is spot on. Accurate to all extents. And the way I handle it is entirely intentional and not randomly arrived at. Assembling my collection is WAAAAAAY down my priority list. Liquidating it (by sale or inheritance) is a more clear and present interest. I don't care if I EVER acquire another coin, as long as I can continue to learn about them.

Go through an injury that has your docs talking to your family about final arrangements and clergy summoning. It changes one's perspective, Paul. The social aspect is pretty close to the only part that matters to me. I can scarcely HOLD a stinking coin in my right hand any more. I had to become quasi-lefthanded.

Dying at a computer screen is about the dumbest thing I can imagine. I'd rather die in a heinous plane crash approaching a major coin show city's airport. "Doing what I love."

Now..., O'Hare or Midway?

Oh, you may have noticed I don't "do" links. I read, I retain what I've read, and I have near total recall of what I've read and heard. I don't keep an index of links.

 

As per your request, the QDB words on bogus toners in TPGS plastic is on page 39 of The Official American Numismatic Association Grading Standards for United States Coins, 7th Edition, Edited by Kenneth Bressett, with narrative by Q. David Bowers. Whitman, 2013.

The article is "Advanced Grading Techniques" and the subheading is "Deceptive Practices".