Can't Resist Alexandria Billon Tetradrachms

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  1. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's a new one to my collection - Vespasian, as I continue to add to my Roman Egypt sub-genre. It also represents the 7th of my 12 Caesar coins to date.

    Vespasian (A.D. 69-79) Billon Tetradrachm of Alexandria, Egypt. 26mm 11.98 grams

    Obverse: Laureate bust right, LB in front (Year 2, 69-70 A.D.)

    AYTOK KAIΣ ΣEBA OYVEΣΠAΣIANOY

    Reverse: Nike Advancing Left, holding wreath and palm branch

    Reference: RPC 2412, Koln 276, Milne 393, BMCGr 236, Emmet 205.2, Dattari 360

    Feel free to post any Vespasian coins of Alexandria or other tets ;)

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  3. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

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  4. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Vespasian is one of my favorite emperors. Here's a bronze Alexandrine diobol of his featuring Isis on the reverse:
    Vespasian Isis.jpg
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I, too, am fond of the coins of Alexandria but I am not at all fond of billon as a metal. There are tetradrachms of each period that suffer less from the alloy from which they were made and the circumstances that they encountered over the centuries. Most people judge coins by wear but I have a fondness for solid looking, smooth surfaced and disease free examples whatever their color or alloy. In Alexandrians, this seems especially important.
    Hadrian
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    Commodus
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    Septimius Severus
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    Maximinus
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    Philip I
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    'Ovaballathos' and Aurelian
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    Diocletian
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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I'm with Doug-- I don't particularly like billion or potin but I love the coins of Roman Egypt, especially the interesting reverses.

    I was just re-photographing a handful of coins, among them a billion tetradrachm of Trajan. Aside from the flan flaw (or maybe a scrape of some sort), the metal is the best I've seen for that era in Roman Egypt tetradrachms. I'll post it after editing the images.

    Meanwhile, here are a couple of bronze denominations from Vespasian.

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Vespasian
    year 4, CE 71/2
    Diobol (very underweight; thin flan), 25.4 mm, 5.45 gm
    Obv: AVTOKKAIΣΣEBAOVEΣΠAΣIANOV; laureate head right
    Rev: bust of Isis left; LΔ in right field
    Ref: Emmett 217.4

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Vespasian
    year 5, CE 72/3
    obol, 21 mm, 5.2 gm
    Obv: AVTOKKAIΣΣEBAOVEΣΠAΣIANOV; laureate bust right
    Rev: hawk standing right; LE in left field
    Ref: Emmett 222(5) R1, Milne 430
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I would have to agree with both of you that the bronze coins are more pleasing in hand when regarding the constituent metal. I guess the varying alloys in the tets makes them kind of unpredictable - but the higher silver content in the earlier issues gives them a grey appearance...
     
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  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    there are some very nice coins on this thread. Here is my contribution-a Dattari plate coin of Vespasian.

    Egypt, Alexandria. Dattari. Vespasian, 69-79 Diobol circa 70-71 (year 3), Æ
    ( 26.5mm., 9.15g.)
    Obv: Laureate head r.
    Rev. Bust of Isis r.; in front, LΓ. RPC 2430 (this coin cited). Dattari-Savio Pl. 14, 382 (this coin).
    Brown tone. Very Fine.
    From the Dattari collection.
    Naville Numismatics Auction #30, Lot 283, April 02, 2017.
    Coin depicted in the Wildwinds.com database.

    Vespasian Dattari 2 copy.jpg
     
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  9. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

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    Vespasian Tetradrachm

    ΑΥΤΟΚ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒA ΟΥΕΣΠΑΣΙΑΝΟΥ LB
    Laureate head right

    Dated LB Year 2 (69/70 AD).

    Nike walking left, holding wreath and palm.

    EGYPT. Alexandria.
    69-79 AD
    Billon Tetradrachm
    24mm - 13.12g

    Köln 276; Dattari 360; Milne 393; Emmett 204; RPC II 2412.

    VF, gray toning,

    ex-Vauctions sale 243 lot 58 Barry P. Murphy

    Vespasian was proclaimed Emperor at Alexandria on July 1, 69 AD. This cut short the coinage of Vitellius at the Egyptian capital which had begun only two months before

    The billon coins are usually tough to photograph to appear as they do in hand. This one looks nothing like it does Iin hand

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    Galba billon Tetradrachm

    Λ OYKΛIBΣ OYΛ Π ΓAΛBA KAIΣ ΣEB AVT
    laureate bust of Galba, right, LB (year 2) before

    PΩMH
    Helmeted, draped bust of Roma right, holding spear & sheild

    Alexandria, September 68 AD-January 69 AD

    13.44g

    Scarce

    RPC 5330; Emmett 174

    Ex-ANE

    In hand it has a wonderful dark consistent toning
     
  10. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Can't resist them either :D

    Nero, Roman Empire (Egypt)
    Billon tetradrachm
    Obv: ΝΕΡΩ ΚΛΑΥ ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒ ΓΕΡ, radiate head right
    Rev: AYTO-KPA, draped bust of Serapis right, LI ([year] 10) before
    Mint: Alexandria
    Date: 63-64 AD
    Ref: Milne 222

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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a nice Galba. Mine is a year earlier (LA) and lacks the even toning and refined style of Jay's coin. All it has going for it is fortunate selection of the letters that survived. YΛΠ ΓAΛBA at obverse top
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  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    With billon you can see some funky patinas. Look at this reddish one of Nero!

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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nice Vespy @ancient coin hunter. This is one of my favourite Vespasian Alexandrian tets, basically because of the severe portrait.


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    Vespasian
    AR Tetradrachm, 12.56g
    Alexandria mint, 69 AD
    RPC 2403 (9 spec.).
    Obv: AYT TIT ΦΛAYI OYEΣΠAΣIAN KAIΣ; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r., date LA before neck
    Rev: PΩ-MH; Roma standing l., with spear and shield
    Ex Roma E16, 28 February 2015, lot 268.
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I don't think I've ever shown this billion tet before, partly because I just can't seem to take good pictures of it. The coin is weighty and aside from the abrasion or flan flaw on the obverse, the metal is pretty nice-- smoother than these images suggest. Trajan's portrait is also unusually pleasing.

    TrajanTet-Nilus-Dattari-RT.jpg
    EGYPT, Alexandria. Trajan
    Regnal year 18 (114/5 CE)
    billion tetradrachm, 24 mm, 12.8 gm
    Obv: AVTTPAIANAPICEBΓEPMΔAKIK; laureate bust right, star in right field
    Rev: draped bust of Nilus right, crowned with taenia and lotus bud; cornucopia at left shoulder; LI-H
    Ref: Dattari 670 (this coin); Dattari-Savio plate 26 #670 (this coin); RPC 4851.16 (this coin cited); Emmett 387.18, R4.
    ex Dattari collection (Giovanni Dattari, 1858-1923)
     
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  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Hey that portrait of roma looks a lot like Galba!
     
  16. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great tet of Trajan @TIF! Thanks for sharing it.
     
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  17. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I'm new to the Alexandrian tetradrachms, but I have to say that once I got a couple in hand, I was really impressed. You all have some really nice ones.

    This one is probably not going to thrill anyone, but I am really exited about it - Julia Mamaea and Serapis. There are some obvious problems here, but sometimes I find damage compelling, especially if it costs $4.74.

    Julia Mamaea Egypt Tet Serapis Nov 2018 (0).jpg

    Egypt Potin Tetradrachm
    Julia Mamaea
    Year 11 (231/232 A.D.)
    Alexandria Mint

    [ΙΟ]ΥΛ ΜΑΜΑΙΑ СΕΒ ΜΗΤƐ СƐΒ Κ СΤΡΑ draped bust right with stephane / Sarapis bust right draped and wearing kalathos; date LIA left; palm branch right.
    RPC 10456; Dattari 4511.
    (11.95 grams / 22 mm)
     
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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Five bucks is a heck of a deal!
     
  19. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Oh yeah - less than the price of a BigMac!
     
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