Featured Can you define artificial toning ?

Well, I am aware that feelings about concepts like "ownership" vary widely depending on locale, and while I do not necessarily agree with such concepts, in my neck of the woods, so-called "historic districts" are nearly ubiquitous as are strange-sounding restrictions on even real-estate ownership. Historical districts dictate what one may, and may not do with one's own "property", sometimes extremely strongly. While it was once the case in Pennsylvania that land ownership conveyed the right to have one's remains interred on one's homestead, that is no longer the case, even for large rural tracts.

No, ownership is a sketchy concept. Fail to pay property taxes and see what happens. Even the law uses interesting terms - "tenants in common", "tenants in the entirety", "joint tenants with right of survivorship". "Tenants" is indeed the accurate term. We "rent" real estate from the government, in a VERY real sense.

Until rather recently, many counties in Pennsylvania had a "personal property tax", which taxed any and all assets annually. Failure to pay up could cost you your silver stack. Thankfully, that was repealed, but counties are lobbying to re-establish it. "Real" property taxes are no longer cutting it.

 

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By the way, the tendency to consider a common circulated coin as worth posting about, or collecting, or even worth THINKING about, is NOT my particular problem. For that, see about 96% of new members of this site.

ANY COIN post-Great Depression had better be at least a strong AU or it ain't worth my time.

 

" May your wave patterns merge only with natural toned coins " Would be a great T-shirt for an ANAC show or Spock's epitaph. I agree Jeff.

 

If I place coins in sulfur laden manila flips from the sixties, and house them in a cool dry place for a period of 20 or 30 years, and reap the colorful results, am I an artificial toner guy?

What's the difference? Cook them, or bake them over a period of time.........

 

Difference is usually $$ if you speak well; but as of now you are down as suspicious

 

I'll say it one more time without reading your whole post or the others....

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ARTIFICIAL OR NATURAL TONING.

All toning is either market acceptable or not.

 

Personally, I would get those out of there and into Airtites ASAP.....before they reach the terminal stage. That's a beautiful collection!

 

I dissent. Acceptable or not, artificial is STILL artificial. You can score on a blown call, and you get the points. That doesn’t make it right or honest.

Despite the way some people act, ethics still matter.

 

We all have to start somewhere, though.

 

While I can’t claim to have ALWAYS had standards as high as I do now, I always was prime quality driven. I was never a hole filler. Simply put, I was mentored that way, from the very beginning.

The difference is more income has allowed me to do it with more coins.

 

This coin probably has more history attached to it than any single US coin (with VERY few exceptions), yet look at its surface preservation. It does not really benefit anyone to go full-on-Nazi about coin preservation.

 

Very good........

 

Wow, that's one of the lengthiest dodges I have ever read. If you say it is so easy, then photograph an untoned coin, artificially tone it so that it has market acceptable toning, then photograph it again.

I won't be taking your word, I will be forced to admit that you have shown evidence to support your claim. Until now, nobody, including you have been able to meet my challenge.

So again, PROVE IT!

 

I have never artificially toned a coin in my life. In fact, I store all of my raw coins in Intercept Shield albums, and even have some Intercept Shield Slab Protectors for some of my graded coins. The single biggest threat to my "niche" is the proliferation and certification of market acceptable coins that are the product of a coin doctor.

Please explain how what I asked Doug to prove is unprovable? I gave very simple instructions that would satisfy the burden of proof. Either doctoring coins to produce market acceptable rainbow toning is as easy as you, Doug, and everyone else says, or it isn't and nobody will rise to the challenge. I've been offering this same challenge for years, and I am undefeated.

This attack on my character to cast me down as a coin doctor is a sophomoric attempt at deflection because you know Doug can't do it.

 

So because I buy and sell coins in order to make a profit to enable me to finance my collection, that makes me a dealer? Hardly. IN a good year I might make a few thousand dollars flipping coins, a dealer is someone who makes a living buying and selling coins.

And why would you care if people like me sell rainbow toned coins for premiums over price guide when you self admittedly have no interest in toned coins?

 

The problem with that is that applies to basically everything but food and perishables and even some of those can outlast us. While I agree to take extreme measures with the top historical pieces, very few things fall into that category

Should we not wear clothes or wear shoes because they would outlast us otherwise? Do we not own the land a house is built on because it will outlast us? Should we not occupy a house because the structure should survive us by many generations ect

 

That’s actually not true at all, not even close to true in the USA or your country AUS. Reckless murder is murder.

Furthermore it’s rare to kill someone with a car and face no charges. Your country takes it a step further with murder charges for construction that failed.

Even self defense killings can and do result in charges

 

Intent isn’t a defense in law. It depends on what the action was whether or not intent matters and to what extent. I didn’t mean to isn’t a defense