Atocha Coin I found in FLorida

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by xBRONCOS, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    i need help identifying this coin does anyone know about this coin?
    it looks just like the coin in pirates of the carribean3 its crazy not the skull coin the other one.

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Howdy xBRONCOS - Welcome to the Forum !!

    What you have there is a modern replica - not a genuine coin.

    And there is no need to post your questions in more than 1 location.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Welcome to the forum, and, yup, it is a fake.
     
  5. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    how is it a fake if i found it on the beach with my metal detecter?
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Easy, some kid threw it away or lost it on the beach, perhaps even on purpose hoping somebody like you would find it and get all excited. Folks with metal detectors find them all the time.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I found two pieces of Spanish gold on a NY beach with my detector, and there is no dount that they were not genuine, nor even gold.
     
  9. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    well that sucks lol.
     
  10. bajablu

    bajablu New Member

    yup, my minelab still picks up stuff like that too. i have found some cool gold and silver coins but more fake tha real. still a treasure in someones eyes.
     
  11. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    how do they make fake coins?
     
  12. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    As replicas go, its not very good :)
     
  13. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    how do they make fake coins? and how can u guys tell a fake one from a real one?
     
  14. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    They cast them. This coin appears to be VERY poorly cast...softness of details, how metal has poored into places it isnt supposed to be, real sloppy facsimile of the actual coin type...I dont even think they used a real one as a model but just copied it roughly by hand.
     
  15. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Fake coins are made any number of ways. You can make a mold of a genuine and cast fake coins. These cast fakes typically have small air pockets that give them away. You can make dies and strike fake coins. There are several ways to make dies from a genuine coin (e.g., spark erosion and impact transfer).
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    How do they make them? There are many books explaining the process, and many different ways.

    How to tell: In this instance the coin is apparent -- but it is easiest when you can compare it to a real one.
    As far as how to tell, like I said above-- there are probably dozens of books including an ANA training course on spotting fakes.
    Some are easier than others, I have a fake 1967 quarter, made of lead. The color is 'off' and there is no copper on the rim. Plus when you drop it, it thuds, it should give a ring tone.
     
  17. mbynack

    mbynack Member

    Atocha Coins

    I saw a few coins that came off the Atocha recently. They were in a glass display case at the Diamonds International on St. Thomas. They didn't have a price tag on them, so I'm not even sure they were for sale. If they were, it was a case of "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."
     
  18. modernman

    modernman New Member

    A few years ago my family stayed at the Gaylord Palms Resort in Orlando, Fl. There was a Mel Fisher shop there with coins and jewelry from the Atocha. My son and I were not into coin collecting yet, but it was fascinating to look at the treasure that was recovered from the Atocha. They took out a large gold bar and let my son hold it. We took a picture of it for "show and tell" at his school. I wish I had bought some gold at the time, but I didn't know what to buy.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As a word of warning, most of the coins associated with Mel Fisher that are sold in jewelry shops, malls, tourist shops etc are sold for anywhere from 2 to 10 times what they are actually worth. I strongly advise everyone to never, ever buy one.

    If you wish to own coins of this type they can be readily purchased from reputable coin dealers for a fair price.
     
  20. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    when i flick the coin it makes a ringing sound lol.
     
  21. xBRONCOS

    xBRONCOS New Member

    theres a mel fisher museum 40mim from here im bringing my coin there. i will post the news!
     
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