Gassing coins -AT

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  1. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Still waiting for your scientific evidence.......

    It’s truly sad you would post things that will literally kill people if they believed you.

    You need to really take a hard look at your intentions. Inhailers are not debatable they save lives and most people that have ever known someone with severeve asthma knows that.
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    No worries, I didn't think you could back up your statements.
    Even answer a query, for that matter.

    Science is always changing the same way that the Top TPG's do.
     
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Still waiting for your scientific evidence and not just your feelings
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Pickins, you didn't say how long ago the spray was prescribed. Since the original epinephrine was mainly used, much more has been learned about the alpha receptors that can react differently instead of generally. The new alpha-1A, alpha 1B. alpha 1D, etc. ( there are 9 subdivisions of interaction ( all react to adrenaline ~ probably your problem med), but modern medicine has isolated them so a specific chemical can activate only one receptor site, such as bronchiol, whereas another only blood pressure, another the hart itself, etc. So if it has been more than 5 years, see a bronchial specialist if you want a difference. I am not a MD, but this is standard material for a college physiology course) Good luck Jim

    More info
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11454900


    ps. My students range from 16 to 55 this semester, and the differentiating factor is not age, but determination and desire . IMO.
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It shouldn't matter, the drug is a drug. No matter what immediate effects it has on you nor the pathway that it works. Although some of the older ones were extremely addicting, Most, I have seen lead to further use of "What ever fixes the problem DOC!" mentality. And all to often set's the stage for a dependency.

    Kind a like questioning that grade on the slab vs just giving them the go ahead thumbs up!

    Oh' they miss labeled my condition, fed me a drug that made my liver fail. (Didn't you read that I am only a practitioner) the doc says!
    It's not my fault that happened, but come on back now that we bent you over this far. I have another drug that just might work. All these "case studies" are saying that it is the right thing for YOU
     
  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    So how or why a drug works shouldn’t matter, I’d laugh if there wasn’t such a strong chance of you killing someone if they believed that nonsense because of how absolutely stupid that statement is.

    You literally just said science and studies and proof shouldn’t matter. This is just pathetic
     
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  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    And yet now you do and it STILL doesn’t matter. Yes, I have come to understand how fundamentally at odds, culturally, the show-attending segment is from the Internet segment of this field. News for you - EACH holds the other in EXTREMELY low regard; it is NOT a one-way opinion. This year’s Farran Zerbe Award winner, the perennial Show Chairman of Florida United Numismatists, took a couple of vicious shots at Internet numismatics during her speech. They got a standing ovation. The disdain is bidirectional, Lehigh.

    I am 100% in the “live person to person” camp. Too many bad experiences, some going back >25 years ago, for me to have any trust in the online world. Are there good sellers? There MUST be. Problem is the "chaff" overwhelms the "grain", in my experience, and makes the effort not worth it.
     
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  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Now as for @1916D10C , my view of younger numismatists has been "poisoned" by the YouTube posters, I readily admit that. Virtually every bizarre, misleading, fraudulent YouTube video I run across is hosted by some backwards ballcap-wearing millennial. How many examples do I need before I'm allowed to recognize a trend?
     
  10. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    I can actually agree with you 100% on that, sir, and that’s understandable. YouTube has created a lot of “self proclaimed numismatic experts” of my generation- many of which I’ve corrected in comments on their videos, to get the typical spiteful, know-it-all replies. These people, many of them, have never owned or bought a rare coin and have never educated themselves through books, and spout off all the misinformation they can find on Google and floating around all areas of the internet.

    However, people like me and others that post here who display passion and knowledge, like @baseball21 and @TypeCoin971793, I don’t believe we fit into that circle of YouTube losers our generation has created.

    Trust me, I’m not pleased either about my “gender-fluid”, google-quoting, hip-hop worshipping, leftist generation, nor do I conform to their twisted, immoral standards. But that too, is a generalization and there are outliers who don’t follow the masses. But get to know somebody before you assume they don’t know what they’re talking about.

    With that said, I will not, nor will I ever, claim to possess the knowledge or expertise on your level.
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Don't assume that my acquisition of knowledge in numismatics has been a straight-line progression. Like most numismatists, there have been things that happen in life to push numismatics to the background. In my case, divorce with a nasty custody battle was one. A near-death brain injury was another. I won both, incidentally. And I won because I was not going to be out-nastied by her very nasty lawyer or a neurologist that wanted to give up. You don't have to care for it, and probably don't, but "nasty" HAS WORKED for my generation for a very long time. I applaud your generation for the ATTEMPT to remedy that, but I think it's ultimately doomed to failure.

    Even in my high school days, in the early 70's, we were EXCEPTIONALLY nasty buggers, to each other. Competition drove EVERYTHING in my generation's educational experience from Kennedy's Commission on Physical Fitness (a competition) to the most recent previous angry political era (Viet Nam/Nixon/Watergate). It WAS the way we were brought up, and "Kum Bay Yah" does tend to bug us to no end.

    Hey, parents' generation routinely used words, without ill intent, that would now be bleeped on TV. Even early Saturday Night Live re-runs can't be aired unbleeped.
     
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  12. CoinCorgi

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  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Zackly! That role was patterned after me.
     
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  14. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    Don’t kid yourself sir, this generation is equally as nasty as yours, hiding under a pacifist/anti fascist agenda, which is a complete paradox and contradiction of their purported ideals. However, what they do lack is the cahones of their parents.

    I’m not here to bash my own generation, however the “in crowd” of today, the masses, (that doesn’t typically apply to those of us into numismatics) I often do not respect highly nor do I identify with the commie values of many of them.

    But- one should form opinions and judgements on an individual basis, not solely on the generation in which they were born.
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    For someone who is in the 100% “live person to person” camp, you spend an awful lot of time discussing numismatics on the internet. So while you may not buy/sell online, you are still engaged with the online community.

    Ps, I’m really intrigued about her swipes, what did she say?

    Now I feel old, I had no idea that people made YouTube videos about coins, I thought it was all politics and music.
     
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  16. 1916D10C

    1916D10C Key Date Mercs are Life! 1916-D/1921-D/1921

    So am I. It must’ve been classic. Do tell what she said Mr Bellman.
     
  17. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    There’s only one way to settle this:
    DANCE OFF!
    But seriously, my kids bicker less than the “adults” here. I feel really good about that.
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Call my tendency to tersely and critically address the Internet segment, without being PART OF the Internet segment, "The Essence of what it means to be Kurt Bellman". I am verbally pugnacious and do not shrink from controversy. I THRIVE on it. It's what I DO FOR A LIVING.

    Cindy's swipes, while I don't have a recording of it, centered around the Internet segment's overinflated view of their knowledge, a swipe with which I concur.

    If you don't get to major shows with talk presenters, you ARE missing among the "best stuff" in numismatics. I can do a 5-day show and NEVER ONCE visit the bourse floor. You can interact with ALL the "powers that be" in numismatics person-to-person and even occasionally one-on-one, yes, even get a long-held question considered by Q. David Bowers himself. He may not know the precise answer to your question, but he will 100% of the time refer you to another person in attendance who can. The Internet does not often work that way. In it's early days, it used to, but it doesn't any more. It's now become almost exclusively an advertising medium and that's sad. It's all marketing, all the time, and that REALLY hacks me off.
     
  19. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Or the Beatles Day Tripper being censored for the lyric, "She's a big teaser"...... Ah yes, we have progressed... Haven't we?
     
  20. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Check out James Taylor's version, on the Flag album. Also, it's just sick we now can no longer play Money for Nuthin' from Dire Straights.
     
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